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My Little Pony: Guardians of Harmony make the new show under that name with Boulder Media and there you go, the Branding is already set up and ready to go.
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This has happened in every season finale since season 3.
The rage-filled critic haters spill woefully stubborn insists that the finale is good, they end up being half assed and the fandom is split or feels negative majority wise, the critic haters say all sorts of nonsense on how the people who don’t like it should ‘leave’, as if there isn’t plenty to love remaining in the show, and spread more hate and alienation then the critics ever do.
Every year.
And now, we have a character who’s majority of growth and acceptance was skipped, and those people expect fans who enjoy high quality parts of the show to praise it or ‘leave’.
It’s disgusting. I’m not saying it’s an absolute it will be bad, but the track record for half assed two parters is HUGE. If it doesn’t cause a split in who likes it, more power to it. It’s just incredibly unlikely considering the premise. Maybe the other characters will rise up and surprise us, who knows.
I’ve been a brony since early 2012 to witness enough Murrison schnezigans, thank you very much.
 
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They just purchased Boulder Media who is working on a couple unnamed projects, now that Boulder Media will be an in house animation and production part of Hasbro it actually is likely cheaper for them to cancel the show after the movie move the production to Boulder (as one of the unnamed projects) and have them do the show from then on.
 
It’s not just the show. Everything would have to be changed. People don’t seem to realize this. This would mean unless they kept the style and logo and everything else the same (coequally known as “the branding”), it would require redoing it all. From the packages for the toys, to all the third-party licensed deals. Everything.
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@FrzGT
You must be new here.
This has happened in every season finale since season 3.
The rage-filled critic haters spill woefully stubborn insists that the finale is good, they end up being half assed and the fandom is split or feels negative majority wise, the critic haters say all sorts of nonsense on how the people who don’t like it should ‘leave’, as if there isn’t plenty to love remaining in the show, and spread more hate and alienation then the critics ever do.
Every year.
And now, we have a character who’s majority of growth and acceptance was skipped, and those people expect fans who enjoy high quality parts of the show to praise it or ‘leave’.
It’s disgusting. I’m not saying it’s an absolute it will be bad, but the track record for half assed two parters is HUGE. If it doesn’t cause a split in who likes it, more power to it. It’s just incredibly unlikely considering the premise. Maybe the other characters will rise up and surprise us, who knows.
 
I’ve been a brony since early 2012 to witness enough Murrison schnezigans, thank you very much.
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They just purchased Boulder Media who is working on a couple unnamed projects, now that Boulder Media will be an in house animation and production part of Hasbro it actually is likely cheaper for them to cancel the show after the movie move the production to Boulder (as one of the unnamed projects) and have them do the show from then on.
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You do know that companies do that all the time right? It’s why Ben 10 has like 4 sequel series under different subtitle names. Mostly because after a while on a show voice actors get pay bumps as I understand it and if they retool the show they can ignore that because it’s like they got hired for a different show. Just because they are doing G4.5 or a G5 doesn’t mean that they have to throw everything away. They use the movie as an end cap to the show and retool it after that, it wouldn’t cause that much confusion especially with the Guardians of Harmony line of toys out, just retool it under that name.
 
We’re not talking sequel or spin-off series but reboots, that’s what most people refer to when speaking of the hypothetical situation of Hasbro cancelling G4 and immediately rolling out a G5.
 
They’ve got it good right now. The franchise reboot went beyond their wildest dreams. Not only did they get the target market, but they got an unexpected one that makes them far more than the target one does. They’d be crazy to reboot the franchise right now. If not for Bronies, the series probably would’ve capped at the required 65 for syndication, and been ended.
 
Even a minor retooling will still cost them money, and when it comes to the upper-management and stockholders, money is all that matters at the end of the day. To them, WHY spend more money for no reason if your current product is performing to your satisfaction?
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You do know that companies do that all the time right? It’s why Ben 10 has like 4 sequel series under different subtitle names. Mostly because after a while on a show voice actors get pay bumps as I understand it and if they retool the show they can ignore that because it’s like they got hired for a different show. Just because they are doing G4.5 or a G5 doesn’t mean that they have to throw everything away. They use the movie as an end cap to the show and retool it after that, it wouldn’t cause that much confusion especially with the Guardians of Harmony line of toys out, just retool it under that name.
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@TheAnonShy
No I will admit I’m not 100% sure we aren’t getting season 7 but I really could see them ending it there and doing a G5 or maybe G4.5 of some kind. It’s completely possible that they will do another season after the movie I just think since we have had absolutely no confirmation of it by now and with a theatrical movie coming out I just think it is more likely the movie will end it.
 
I think people misunderstand the concepts of generations when it comes to cartoons and such. the timespan between G1-G4 is literally 30 years. In each case the franchise had died down in popularity to the point where they no longer had new episodes and the toys had less and less shelf-space. Each generation was an attempt at revitalizing the franchise.
 
If a property is doing good (which it is) they’re not going to cancel a series then immediately start up a G4.5 or G5 and have to retool everything. This includes from the look of the show on down, to the voice actors, to the specific characters themselves, to all the extraneous media, the toys, their packaging, the tie-ins, everything.
 
It would make absolutely no sense in essentially throwing something away that’s doing good to have to rebuild most of it from scratch.
 
Even if they just took the show, wrote an ending, then did a reboot with everything the same and just ignored the original storyline and wrote new ones (much like many anime does with OAVs and series and such) it could cause massive confusion and destabilize their market.
 
If the series is doing good, and the toys are continuing to sell, Hasbro isn’t going to can it.
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To say I disagree with everything you said about Star’s intention and reasoning being worse than Sunset’s would be the understatement of the millennium. It’s been years since we’ve first got introduced to her and I’ve taken everything into consideration and seriously thought about and analyzed it for a long time. And I’m sorry, but I still don’t see it that way. But whatever, let’s just drop this and agree to disagree.
 
Also, it’s kinda hard to not paint every person who has “criticisms” about her with the same brush when just about every single person who brought up those points is an active hater and proud of it! But I will admit I do forget than even her fans have a few problems. Hell, as much as I love Starlight and defend her to no end, I will say that her turnaround wasn’t executed as well as it could’ve been, because they decided to put it at the end of the episode thus making it feel rushed (despite how long it actually took in the episode proper for her to be excepted). But at the same time, it was a good idea and the actual intention was clear (I’d argue since the premiere) so it’s not a failure in any way.  
Sorry about that though. I’m just sick of all this. I can’t look at something Starlight related without at least one jackass gumming up the works. I mean there are characters that I don’t like, but I don’t hunt down pictures of them and leave a nasty comments. Not you, but most other people. Regardless, I’ve made my point. And I think I’m done now.
 
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She should team up with Flash Sentry, the target audience who are little girls, would love it!
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No I will admit I’m not 100% sure we aren’t getting season 7 but I really could see them ending it there and doing a G5 or maybe G4.5 of some kind. It’s completely possible that they will do another season after the movie I just think since we have had absolutely no confirmation of it by now and with a theatrical movie coming out I just think it is more likely the movie will end it.
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I just don’t get why you all don’t even want to give her a chance to redeem herself and prove herself to be a better person (or rather, pony). In fact, why are ANY of us even having this discussion/debate?! We are all comparing a series of movies to only a season of a TV show. Now tell me, does that sound the least bit fair, especially considering Sunset is basically a main character and Starlight is only a reoccurring character who is in only a handful of episodes? Of course Sunset has had more development. Movie’s have to do stuff like that effectively in a short amount of time. In a TV series you have more wiggle room and time to develop characters. But probably not as much because, like I said, Starlight’s not a main character. Hell, even if I shared the haters opinions (God forbid) I’d still be saying all of this!
The only conclusion I can come up with is that the haters just don’t want to like Starlight and will deny ANY good in her. And I’m sorry, but that is easily one of the most stupid, petty things I’ve ever had the misfortune to witness. Especially since we’ve forgiven (and love) characters who’ve intentionally done worse things for lesser reasons.
 
Lemme just preface my comment with this. Don’t confuse me with others who don’t like the synopsis of this episode. I actually like the sound of it, other than once again getting the “the mane 6 are helpless” trope that seems to be popping up over and over this season. In fact if you read a previous comment by me in this thread, I’m a little disappointed in how little of her we’ve actually seen in this season given the run-up she had. I’ve warmed up a little towards Starlight, and most of that was because she wasn’t shoved down our throats as a mane character who didn’t deserve the spot.
 
Now, onto your comment.
 
I never said Sunset had the most intricate backstory. But at least it’s a little better than “Oh woe is me, my friend got accepted into a school and for some reason I’ve completely lost the ability to do something as simple as sending a letter despite being a creature with magical abilities.”
 
That kind of reasoning requires a complete and total lack of any intelligence. It’s basically playing the idiot card. It actually makes it worse in her case due to her age, because unlike Sunset who was just the classic power-greedy impatient protege, she was a kid who stewed over one thing her entire life, basing it all on hate and jealousy.
 
Secondly, her village was based on communism taken to an extreme. And it was revealed that the “Our Town” song and dance routine was modeled after WWII Axis propaganda films. Infer from that as you will. Starlight was not trying to be helpful. In fact the subtext was that she was also collecting them for her own benefit. You saw how happy she got when she was talking about having Twilight’s, because she was an alicorn. Removing cutie marks was just the surface reasoning. She probably had other intentions as well.
 
I am not a Starlight hater. I explained why Sunset is far more accepted than Starlight. Don’t paint every person who has criticisms about the character with the same brush.
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@TheAnonShy  
Nah, g4 will keep going. I’m pretty sure that the movie, while much more epic then the tv series, will be a very stand alone product that could fit in any where during the shows timeline. Set after Twilight’s alicornification of course.
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Man, I hope Trixie gets a big role in this finale. I’m also willing to bet that Thorax will be on the team too. Chrysalis will definitely be the villain and will no doubt attempt to bring thorax back into the fold with intimidation and guilt, kinnda like a cult leader trying to control a wayward victim.
 
Hmmm, This is a good opportunity for Starlight to use her experience with that kinda stuff to break chrysalis’s control over not only thorax but the rest of the changelings as well. Chrysalis and her changelings could make an excellent dark(er) reflection of starlight and what she did to equal town.
 
Starlight has to face a villain who’s sins echo her own eventually and Chrysalis fits the bill in my opinion.
 
And I really wanna see Starlight suffer,emotionally,mentally and maybe even physically. Because A baptism of fire is much more preferable to a stupid song when it comes to making a villain turned hero likeable and sympathetic.
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Are we really sure that the movie will be the end of —at least— G4? Hasbro is an enterprise, if they see that their product is sucessful, they will keep going and making more. I’m sure that for the heads of Hasbro it’s just a cold business. Sadly, this cuestion it’s not in the hands of the writers, directors, etc.
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Sorry if it came across that way. But I’m just calling it out as it is.
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Ah good old Ad Hominem.
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I don’t agree that the show has gone down hill at all, I think that we have likely hit plateau status. To me 5 and 6 have been about the same in terms of quality. Which is honestly to be expected really, without some kind of major shake up in the next season or two (and I mean something like actually exploring Equestria and the wider world outside of it) I could see it start to go down hill. However I suspect that won’t happen because the movie is looking to be the end right now.
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@LeoNero  
In short, people are whiny idiots who have nothing better to do with their lives than complain about a show they willingly watch.
 
 
@Brony_Conundrum  
I know, right? these guys are never satisfied.
 
@Background Pony #CC00  
Shhhhhh. You hear that?
 
…………….
 
I believe that’s the sound of no one caring.
Brony_Conundrum

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Fandom: Ugh, you lazy hacks of writers! Make Starlight actually do something!
 
(writers do just that with the S6 finale)
 
Fandom: No, not like that.
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>Get the most unique idea for a finale since S1 probably
 
So by unique you mean taking Silver Quill’s two-parter mad lib and scratching off Starlight for Twilight.
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@LeoNero  
1)Yeah great to know anything can be justified if you make a sad face about it and claim childhood scaring.  
2) Yeah you see those hateful glares, the Humane 6 keeping her pushed to the side, Twilight hesitating to take her hand?  
3)So the Mane 6 should be damsel in distress to give Starlight the star role and yes they are damsel in distress, the synopsis above confirms that.