Chronicle23

@Ren
Too be honest I’ve also considered that theory.

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Jarkes

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@thatguy

Well, Jim isn’t working on the movie, and both Meghan McCarthy and Jayson Thiessen kind of sort of left the show (Meghan’s now an executive producer for the whole franchise) to work on the movie, so…

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NamelessNP

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@CronoM

I don’t know about that, because I’ve seen Jim Miller commenting on occasion that he doesn’t know what’s going on with the movie’s plot.

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Jarkes

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@thatguy

Yeah, they could use the movie to pass the torch to a new set of toys- I mean, new cast of characters.

Just as long as they don’t do what the G1 Transformers movie did…

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CronoM

@thatguy
Wha-?…(rolls eyes) Unless the movie has absolutely nothing to do with the show, which we know that’s not true, chances are they are sharing and comparing notes when it comes to the plot so that the movie doesn’t turn out with into a ‘zero continuity and zero knowledge of the present show’ mess!

Why would you think otherwise? That argument so pedantic its almost as if your being…

(looks at username)

Oh.

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NamelessNP

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@CronoM

@Background Pony #CC00
This whole Starlight Glimmer arc feels like DHX is just killing time until the 2017 movie comes out.

That doesn’t make a bit of sense because the movie and show are being done by different people.

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CronoM

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Tbh…

This whole Starlight Glimmer arc feels like DHX is just killing time until the 2017 movie comes out. The premier is a baby ‘s crying accidentally sets off a city-wide disaster, and the finale is some side characters taking on a big bad.
And before that, besides the frayed timelines at the time, Starlight’s schemes were extremely isolated. They didn’t even give Starlight a thematic and mirrored name like they gave Sunset, they gave her a name that was objectively, as if we hadn’t seen any episodes with her, a complete knockoff name of Twilight’s.

Call me crazy, but this whole arc seems to be kind of irrelevant. If they can turn ‘irrelevent’ into ‘not stupid and still entertaining’ for the finale, I’m okay with that. We’ve learned in the past that 9 out of 10, 2 episodes is not long enough to give an engaging movie-level plot. Even Twilight’s Kingdom suffered from this massively, although it was sort of balanced by having the highest production value.

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Ren

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@Chronicle23
Spoiler alert: Starswirl is Discord(!!!)
OMG WHAT?!

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Chronicle23

Is this the villian twist? full

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Ren

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@Background Pony #CC00
That would certainly be interesting to see, but I doubt they’d actually do it.

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NamelessNP

Starlight and Sunny Fan

@Spinny

Who says the show has to end just because the mane 6 is complete? They have a whole new cast of interesting characters with great potential that they can hand the torch off to.

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@Ren
Slice of Life was a test run for this kind of thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mane 6 upped and left at the end of the season.

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Hakirayleigh

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Use them wisdomly.

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@hakirayleigh
Thank you good sir! I don’t even know what to do with all these upvotes.

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Hakirayleigh

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@MegaAnimationFan
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Vinyl Fluff

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@IceKitsune

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Ok I have to ask a question here because maybe I’m misunderstanding something. Do you think that if they rebrand the show after the movie they would lose the Trademark on Friendship is Magic; and have to recall all store products to rebrand them with the name of the new show? (in this case Guardians of Harmony) Because I’m positive that is not how it works, they could easily sell stuff under the Friendship is Magic Trademark until the contracts needed to be renegotiated and just switch over then, if they haven’t done so already with separate contracts as if this is happening, they likely have been working on this since season 4 or 5 (heck maybe even 3 if it truly was meant to be the original finale)

No. If they did a spin-off or reboot, the current products on the shelves would remain until they sold. However for a spin-off they’d need to redesign new packaging with the new branding (this is an umbrella term in the industry used for everything from logo design down to color combos) and this incurs a cost both in designing and production. This would be done for multiple reasons, including brand awareness (Your kid goes looking for the GoH-packaged Dash but only sees the FiM-packaged Dash. You and I know it’s the same figure, but kids don’t always work that way.) And for trademark reasons/protection.

Again, all of this is moot considering they’ve got no reason to do any of this as long as the original line is doing well.

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Correction: since she became the Princess of Friendship.

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@Spinny
That’s more of the fault of the new writers probably not watching previous episodes like they should (I think that’s actually a policy). Though I understand your concern, it’s hardly warranted. This kind of thing hasn’t happened so much to the point where we should be anxious about it.

And I would agree with you with the whole “season 7 being the end” belief (which would most likely be around the same time when the 2017 movie releases), but the show staff said back in 2014 that there will be five more years of this show. That may change to less but I have yet heard any update so far. As for what I expect from the show if it lasts that long, I have no idea. I never have any idea about what this show would do next in each season. I just sit back, relax, and see what the show would offer.

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IceKitsune

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@Vinyl Fluff
Ok I have to ask a question here because maybe I’m misunderstanding something. Do you think that if they rebrand the show after the movie they would lose the Trademark on Friendship is Magic; and have to recall all store products to rebrand them with the name of the new show? (in this case Guardians of Harmony) Because I’m positive that is not how it works, they could easily sell stuff under the Friendship is Magic Trademark until the contracts needed to be renegotiated and just switch over then, if they haven’t done so already with separate contracts as if this is happening, they likely have been working on this since season 4 or 5 (heck maybe even 3 if it truly was meant to be the original finale)

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Ren

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@Vinyl Fluff
I was mainly furthering his argument from what I thought he meant. As cool as it would be to have a fan-fulfilling spin-off, I doubt it’d happen for the reasons you’ve already listed.

@Pepsi Twist
Have you seen Slice of Life? ;)

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Oddball64

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@Spinny
If the show does end after season 7, I just hope they make some sort of spinoff in the same universe that focuses on different characters.

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Vinyl Fluff

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@Ren

@Vinyl Fluff
I think he’s saying that either A) once FiM has run its course; or B) as a separate, side project, they should make a new show tied to the new Guardians of Harmony toyline that already exists. Not that similar complications wouldn’t apply to this idea, but it’s not much different than what they’ve done in the past (e.g. adding the “Friendship is Magic” subtitle to the new line after Gen 3.5 ended).

Except G4 was a massive departure from G3.5 and required literally years of work before it got off the ground. IIRC Lauren Faust had started initial work as far back as 2007 or 2008 for the series, after having been approached by Hasbro about the franchise even earlier. So it wasn’t like they just slapped a G4 label on the previous series and ran with it.

Even if they did a spin-off series using the GoH name after the movie, my point still stands. They’d have to rebrand everything. Currently the GoH line is a small, experimental line into a line meant for both genders. It does not have the number of products and lines the main one does, so the new packaging and branding were required and are a much smaller cost versus rebranding everything.

Also, you’ve got to look at this from their perspective. Why do a reboot/spinoff at all? It basically boils down to this

Is the show’s ratings continuing to hold?
Are the returns from the advertising (commercials) during the show still profitable?
Are product sales still good?
Is there continuing financial growth?

If you answer “yes” to all of those, then there’s no reason to change the formula, so to speak. The show could be about 22 minutes of a grey rock sitting there and doing nothing, but if it were bringing in the numbers they were looking for, it would continue until it didn’t anymore.

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Spinny

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@MegaAnimationFan

And besides, the characters have had lessons relearned before season six. This show’s not perfect after all.

They aren’t just re-learning lessons. They’re acting in ways that are quite detached from who they are as characters. Take Spice Up Your Life, for instance. It’s always been a thing about Rarity’s character that she values artistic expression, and in season 5’s Canterlot Boutique, she was even willing to close down her highly successful business to preserve it. And yet, suddenly she’s all about following whatever is mainstream, even if it means suppressing your artistic expression. The Cart Before the Ponies is also one of my least favorite episodes of the season, and Rarity, Dash, and Applejack all acted as though they hadn’t progressed past season 1. I’m just saying, I really don’t want to see more episodes such as this. Exactly what is the point of developing these characters if the writers are just going to ignore their development in future episodes?

It won’t be season 7, but probably season 8. 9 at the latest.

Season 8 and 9? Seriously? Exactly what are you expecting to see from this show that you haven’t already seen? What are you expecting to happen that hasn’t happened that would possibly make a season 8 or 9 necessary? Do all the mane six need to become Princesses of Friendship themselves? Does Twilight need to assume Celestia’s throne? Now that Dash is in the Wonderbolts and Rarity’s flourishing in her career, the mane six are now officially complete. So why in the hell would we need an additional two seasons, other than milking this cash cow until it’s bone dry?

I know a lot of bronies are terrified of the show coming to an end, but all good things have to come to an end eventually. I see absolutely no reason why season 7 (the farewell season) should not be the last.

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Ren

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@Vinyl Fluff
I think he’s saying that either A) once FiM has run its course; or B) as a separate, side project, they should make a new show tied to the new Guardians of Harmony toyline that already exists. Not that similar complications wouldn’t apply to this idea, but it’s not much different than what they’ve done in the past (e.g. adding the “Friendship is Magic” subtitle to the new line after Gen 3.5 ended).

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Vinyl Fluff

What the Fluff?

@IceKitsune

@Vinyl Fluff
My Little Pony: Guardians of Harmony make the new show under that name with Boulder Media and there you go, the Branding is already set up and ready to go.

*Sigh*, no it’s not.

Think of every product you’ve ever seen. Everything. All of that packaging would have to be redone. Unless the show remained “Friendship is Magic”, everything with the name and logo would have to be changed. All of the third-party licensed products would likely have to undergo the same process. At the very worst depending on how the original licensing contracts were worded, they might even have to be renegotiated if they stipulated the license by specific name (“Friendship is Magic”) and that changes.

They’re not going to have a toyline without the associated title attached to it for various reasons, including trademark ones.

Hasbro is a toy company. They are only too well-aware of branding. This would be a substantial cost and is part of the retooling that would be necessary. And you can’t simply ignore it because then you risk consumer confusion and other potential problems, and stockholders tend to be very risk-averse.

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