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@Mr.Myoozik
You’re assuming I need favors. I never needed any. My purpose is to share my opinions and I don’t care if people agree with it or not. I don’t care if people like G5. Good for them if they do. I don’t hold taste against anyone because everyone’s different. Especially for fans who haven’t lived that long. The only time I react is if people tell me to stop saying my opinions.

@Mr.Myoozik
No. I just have more memories to compare things with. I can’t help gut see G5 and realize what MLP used to be back in the past. You guys don’t even know anything from the 80’s, for example. My Saturday morning cartoon exposure of MLP had this https://youtu.be/O-Ll5zaPcIE It was sandwhiched between Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man, She-Ra, Rainbow Bright, Care Bears, Thunder Cats, etc. The animation is dated but the stories are timeless. G5 is Coco Melon. That’s what they’re aiming for. Considering we had great iterations for other franchises like Beast Wars and Transformers Prime who arguably has a young demographic target too. Why can’t mlp have great quality stories like Transformers don’t kiddify their target audience? Is it because Transformers is for boys and Hasbro thinks girls are stupid?

Take this MLP g1 episode for example. https://youtu.be/cUKOw9t1gWY This shit blew my mind when I realized villains can look small and weak while friends can be found among big scary monsters. G4 built up on the idea that a cartoon show doesn’t need to be a 22 minute commercial. They can actually tell decent stories for children and respect their intelligence. G5 is going back to that toy commercial phase. Is it because streaming isn’t bound by FCC rules?

That’s how I feel. That’s why I’m not calm about this.

@icicle wicicle 1517
Not from my experience during the days I watched streams. People were making fan art and song remixes as the stream aired.

Masterpiece? No. But it had balls. How many cartoon shows can you find that did toon violence comedy on female characters? Even Tiny Toons in the 90’s had reservations dropping an anvil on Babs Bunny. I guess there was Elmyra, but sure.

The Pinkie Sense episode was what caught my interest. G4 was clearly not trying to be a girls cartoon show. It was just trying to be a GOOD cartoon show that happened to have girl characters and referencing cues from legends like Tex Avery to boot.

@Dustcan
I saw one on yt but it wasn’t edited to be a full song or anything because the Pipp and Zipp scenes were still there.

This is how you tell the series isn’t making much of an impact. I thought the song was good but where are the remixes? Where’s the people making rock, piano or guitar covers of it?

@Shimmering Spectacle
That’s not impossible but why Misty? What’s different about her? She can’t just be some ordinary unicorn like all the other unicorns in the show. Wouldn’t it be more efficient if Opaline had a cult following of ponies from all three tribes? Dozens of ponies that either believed her story or was in it for some kind of personal gain to serve as her guards or spies? There’s a perspective that hasn’t been revealed yet.

@DerpyFast
I suspect the lore of G5 will be told via a Rashomon effect. Its a very old technique and if that’s the case, requisite of the technique is that the objective truth will not ever be known.

@Lord WyrmSpawN
It was when he learned Sunny was trying to restore it last minute. Sprout’s reasoning was he didn’t want “their enemies” to have magic. Not exactly a unique view because during the campfire scene, Hitch believed the same thing. But the difference here between Hitch and Sprout is one had time to spend with non EPs while the other did not. If Sprout had the chance to spend time with non EPs, he would have changed his mind too. But he was denied this.

An episode where Sprout gets his own Hitch moment with non EPs is already lost opportunity because based on MyM, it doesn’t seem like he minds them anymore. Sad.

@Phoenixflambe
Yes. I got your point. Rarity is a one word name and no one bothers asking her last name.

@OneOverTwo
Can’t be. For a while now, Sprout was only called Sprout Cloverleaf by the fan base. The fans gave him Cloverleaf as a last name because Hitch called Phyllis as Mrs Cloverleaf. It wasn’t until the MBA game that Sprout’s full name was revealed to be officially Sprout Cloverleaf in the credits. So that means earth ponies do it too.

@Phoenixflambe
Argyle and Sunny don’t have the same last name then. Neither do Zipp Storm and Pipp Petals.

@GoodVibesGorgeous
And that’s the big problem why pop culture is dying. People remake things left and right. He Man, She Ra, Ghost Busters, Star Wars, Star Trek, Rugrats, Tiny Toons, etc. They don’t understand what it is exactly that made these IPs great. The hardships and tribulations their original creators went through go over their heads. Which is ironic because when they inherit these things, they stand on the shoulders of the people who originally came up with it. I now understand why you’re standards were so low, willing to accept anything that’s thrown your way like a starving beggar. Its because you lack perspective. I won’t hold that against you. You’re just young born in a time when no one comes up with new stuff anymore because people don’t know how to anymore so all they do is recycle what came before.

@GoodVibesGorgeous
He doesn’t need to be a sixth. There are no labels or naming conventions to correct writing.

Stories are like math. They have eqations and balance. A single sided coin cannot exist. A bird with one wing cannot fly. Etc.

No one expects Sprout to be whatever defines a main character. He’s just expected to be utilized so the other characters can shine. Marty Mcfly cannot be heroic if it wasn’t for Biff Tannen. Imagine Back to the Future without Biff Tannen. The movie would be very different.

@Harmonio
Wanna know who’s jumpy and paranoid? He’s red. Wanna know who was always suspicious of magic? Same red pony who is stubborn to change. He seems to brag about his magic for no apparent reason now.

People think this is character development. Its not. These things don’t happen in a vacuum. They happen when characters gain experience in view of the audience. I have a sneaking suspicion the current show runners don’t have a clear vision they want for the IP they inherited. That’s gonna be rough for g5.

The only two characters that did great in MyM ch2 was Zipp and Pipp. Objectively. The reason for this is they did what g5 majorly fails at. They do real inter-personal relationships. Something that even ANG failed at. It doesn’t help that Sunny’s father is dead, Izzy has no revealed relatives and Hitch has a grand mother but was only revealed in ancillary media.

Only the sisters had character building and it even involved their mother, Haven. Why wasn’t that applied to the rest of the cast? Sunny Hitch and Sprout have a treasure trove of experiences to explore since they grew up as kids together. Friendship goes through thick and thin. Where was that. Why is Izzy so lonely? Not explored. Even Sprout has a seemingly complex relationship with his mother, Phyllis. Completely side lined.

This is why g5 is lack luster. They’re squandering their time instead of using the earliest episodes to build strong foundations for their cast. I blame their writing team. They all act as if they have no life experiences to draw inspiration from. Or they just don’t give a fuck and treat the IP as a toy commercial.

@Background Pony #563E
Flaws aren’t what makes a character great. Its “sense” that makes a character great. Can you explain why is it that when Sprout feared magic, he’s a villain but when Hitch feared it, he has “better reason” for it? I said it in a previous post. The reason why Hitch feared magic is the EXACT SAME REASON why Sprout feared magic in the video game. Both characters literally explain this.

It would’ve been more consistent if Sprout was the one that feared magic. It would’ve made sense if Sunny was the one bragging about how strong her EP magic is. It would’ve made sense if Sunny and Sprout were the ones butting heads about magic… Just like how they were as kids. And then Hitch would be the one to tell them to get along.

@Phoenixflambe
Hitch’s explanation for doing what he did was Sprout’s EXACT explanation in the MBA game for doing what he did. I think that episode could’ve been a Sprout episode. But it was re-written for Hitch.

I’ve seen 3 episodes so far. Its a little hard to binge watch because it looks like Paw Patrol and the characters I fell in love with in ANG feel like they’ve been gutted. One thing to note is that the episodes are serialized. You cannot watch them in any order or you’ll miss over extending plot points. Oddly enough, “Chapter 1” feels was unnecessary. The first episode could be linked directly after the end of the movie because Opaline and Misty have moments of introduction and exposition of their own so they don’t feel like they popped out of nowhere. From what I;ve seen, bits and pieces of who they are are dropped along the way.

I don’t recommend watching this series in a room with someone unless that someone is a kid you’re baby sitting who wants to watch this. And this is coming from a Care Bears fan. Unlike G4 that actually has an art style inspired from Genndy Tartakovsky and Craig McCraken, g5 is vanilla safe cgi. And the character personalities, they don’t save it at all.

Sunny is completely bland. She’s like an isekai protagonist. At least the activist/terrorist one was interesting. Izzy is now loud and annoying as opposed to being optimistically somber from her ANG version. Their nuanced complexity was removed.

There are posts above mine saying Hitch is playing the villain. This is what happens when you stop Sprout from playing his role. The “villain role” has to shift to someone else. And they’re not exaggerating. Hitch wanted to break the crystals apart because he believes earth pony magic is dangerous and he’s now obsessed with safety. Hitch was never obsessed with safety. His ANG version was obsessed with following rules. Sprout was the one obsessed with safety. Although they both do what they do because they care about Maretime Bay, there is a distinct difference in motivation. Sprout now loves his magic and that’s just as dumb. He should’ve been the one that’s really scared of it.

Zipp and Pipp are the more interesting characters. And that’s a matter of relativity simply because Pipp did not change from her ANG version because there was so little to work with while Zipp knows how to use body language to talk. Instead of talking like an adult doing a “hello fellow kids” moment, Zipp would instead point or nudge or make an expression to communicate. It makes her look and sound natural instead of a bad actor reading a script. I blame the voice casting director for this.

I’ll watch the rest of it simply for the over arching story since they’re clearly trying to tell one. This was obvious when listening to Twilight’s recording, important details were conveniently garbled. But I’m not expecting much from it.

@Dustcan
If you disregard the wanted poster seen in TyT, it could simply be explained he’s been off camera this whole time. My theory is there was an embargo with his character so he couldn’t be used in TyT (or the comics) until he makes an appearance in MyM. Probably same with Sugar Moonlight and several other Canterlogic ponies. Could be a trade mark thing like how Care Bears dealt with Sunshine/Funshine Bear.

The MBA game seems to be an exception but that game must have been in development a while back. It was strange because in that game, earth ponies can fully control their magic and Sprout is still deputy. Maybe Hitch deputized him again and the game takes place one year into the future.

@Spoopygirl
He’ll be around. Notice how he’s already playing his role perfectly.

He says his magic is really powerful. At first it sounds like bolster but at the end of the clips, after he tries to “ungrow” his first giant berry plant, he accidentally makes a second one grow behind him that’s even bigger. The set piece needed 5 ponies combined to stop his magic.

@Mr.Myoozik
Of course its not what all G5 can be. But seeing as they’re hyping the trailer with a CG Twilight, its clear what direction Hasbro wants for G5. They don’t have faith that G5 can stand on its own so they use G4 elements to build hype for it.

Note that the main audience of G5 are children who were probably too young to remember early G4. So why put G4 elements in there to begin with? Hasbro doesn’t want to lose the old bronybase. Hasbro doesn’t believe G5 will resonate with the bronies.

Its sad because the ANG movie had proven that the G5 ponies are very complex characters that deliver themselves with sincerity. Its like they were living, breathing people who had aspirations in life. Based on the first MyM special, its clear Hasbro doesn’t want that sincerity anymore. Very disappointing because even if they can’t remake the graphics, they can get away with it using great story telling. Just watch Beast Wars and its PS1 graphics. Its been done.

@Cosmas-the-Explorer
That’s not just a theory. Its a practical business practice. G4 made them money. Hasbro doesn’t want to take risks and make a new one so they extend G4 to G5.

This isn’t anything new. This is why everything is being rebooted or remade and no one is making any new intellectual properties. No one wants to take risks anymore. One of the reasons why G4 is so great is because some lady 10 years ago took a great risk of turning a toy commercial for little girls into a an animated piece like Dexter’s Lab or Power Puff Girls. She didn’t need to ride the coat tail of anything.

Not saying its bad. I’m just stating an observation. For example, us 80’s kids had Back to the Future trilogy. What’s this current generation’s version of Back to the Future that they’re gonna geek out 30-40 years from now? Nothing. Because all they get are remakes and reboots of stuff that came from the 80’s and 90’s. 2010 kids got G4. 2020 kids? They got nothing.

@Mr.Myoozik
G5 chose to be a continuation of G4. Its only par for the course that people would compare them. If G5 was was its own thing like most mlp generations, people would be a lot less inclined to compare.

@Mr.Myoozik
There is point to be made that the characters being compared are their current versions. When Spike was a baby, sure he couldn’t talk. But we were never introduced to that version of Spike. The one we got was an independent snarky teenager that can hold his own episodes even compared to main characters. The Sparky we’re getting is a baby, who will probably stay a baby because that’s the character’s status quo. The most we’ll get of him is comparable to Flurry Heart. Complete with occasional bursts of dragon magic.

@CORDZ2000
It was implied that the collapse of their society was caused by three tribes themselves. Not an outsider, not a thousand year old non pony, but it was their own society that imploded because that’s what societies do. Its inevitable. Rome, Babylon, Mayan, United States.

@Background Pony #808E
THAT is a story. A pony who has a great talent but ignores their talent because they want to be something else. Free will, flying in the face of their cutie mark’s destiny.