@Apex Soundwave  
As aforementioned, politics will fuck you up. :D

Damn right. Love is a powerful tool and our greatest ally.
 
On a side note, the fuck happened down there?
 
Know what, I don’t want to know.
 
Fluffy ponies, everyone. Fluffy ponies.

@Background Pony #C49D
 
nice necro, anonymous background pony
 

 
source

@Background Pony #C49D  
Politics of the mid-20th were fucked up, even if what he had relayed is for some reason proven untrue. XD

@TexasUberAlles  
Are you making this shit up or are you assuming things? Cause I ain’t buying your bullcrap.

@Background Pony #119A
 
yes, and it also required him to breathe oxygen, speak english, and have male genetalia. love doesn’t cause friendship, if anything it’s the other way around. love’s just a reaction, and in this case it wasn’t even love, but my indifference to his harassment that allowed others to force me with promises of power to befriend him. you can say that our friendship totally didn’t count, and isn’t true friendship, and you can say “appreciate” totally does count and is the same thing as love. the fact remains that while some “love” may be necessary to form a friendship, it alone has no power to turn an enemy into a friend. people who believe this will blame themselves for being abused, because if they could love him enough, he would change.

@Background Pony #119A  
*them).

@redweasel  
“Love”, “like”, “appreciate”. Semantics to cover different degrees of “having a positive opinion of someone”.
 
Anyway, from my perspective, that guy you’re talking about don’t seem much of a friend to me. More like an acquaintance with a degree of separation through a mutual friend. And from what you’re telling, you didn’t manage to appreciate his company until you learned to take his harrassment in stride, at which point I assume he either stopped or toned it down since it wasn’t so funny anymore.
 
Nevertheless, I won’t deny that building a friendship with a former enemy requires a mutual willingness to mend fences and trust each other. But that can’t be achieved unless someone is willing to take the first step (and yeah, there are some people who turn out not to be worth it, in which case better let someone else take a chance with him).

@Background Pony #119A
 
well there was one bully in school who liked to torment me with the classic “look how retarded I am and I’m your best friend which makes you retarded” technique. it got to the point that when I joined a club, I walked out the door and quit the moment I saw him in it. but I got pushed into joining it with arguments of blah blah your future career blah blah, and periodically we were forced to work together. we also had a mutual friend, amazingly enough. so I learned that he was only doing it because he thought my reaction was interesting, thus opening my eyes to the practice of “trolling,” and the three of us hung out a lot together after that.
 
nevertheless, you’re shifting the goalposts from “love” to “appreciate” to “like.” I may have liked that particular friend at some point, but there wasn’t much to appreciate, just a lack of tormenting, which was good enough for me. and I never loved him. my point is that this image’s message is misleading, and exaggerates the power of love, which is dangerous because it makes you vulnerable to emotional manipulation, afraid to distrust your heart, because they convinced you it’s got the power to save the world.

@redweasel  
And how many former enemies that you never grew to appreciate do you consider friends? I don’t care if they’re bald or not.
 
Like I said, I fail to see how you can develop a friendship with someone without getting to like them.

@Background Pony #119A
 
just because you have love for your friends doesn’t mean that love caused you to befriend them. love is cheap. I love more people who aren’t my friends than I have friends. it’s like saying hair is the only force powerful enough to turn an enemy into a friend, because all the enemies I’ve made friends with had hair.

@redweasel  
You can’t get friendship from indifference, only a distant acquaintanceship at best. To be friends, you need to have some measure of appreciation for the other person.

@Background Pony #119A
 
as elie wiesel once said, the opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference.

@redweasel  

 
All those things still need a mutual understanding to durably work. Something that’s impossible to achieve if you keep being blinded by hatred.

@Background Pony #CB85
 
but it’s not true!

@Background Pony #CB85  
THANK. YOU. SOMEONE GETS IT.

@Background Pony #CB85  
Right there with you.

You petty political blabbering oafs… I’m just enjoying the truth of the quote with the ponies that fit it well.

@Niggoslav_Krawczyk  
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@KingKek42 Oh, it is, it is… in yorup  
yankeeland, prolly not so much.  
Hey, bitchtits! How’s that working out for you, eh?

@redweasel  
There’s a reason why he called it a “dream”.

@KingKek42
 
well yeah, that’s fine. I just thought it was funny here how he played up the power of love, and people think it’s some awesome quote as if it actually worked _{and also I’m still resentful of the season 2 finale}

@redweasel  
But that’s not even what most of his speeches were like. Look up some his later speeches on YouTube. The reason his more passive speeches gained popularity was because of how inoffensive and politically correct they were. MLK didn’t fuck around and those who think he did are too caught up in the whitewashed image of him and not who he really was.

@KingKek42
 
having a common enemy isn’t aggression. there’s plenty of stuff that makes enemies into friends. mediation, management, rules of conduct, simply being tired of fighting… sheer, random coincidence. he just wanted us to enshrine love as more powerful than it is. just like every conniving plutocrat politician out there.
 
reality is, even if you think someone will stop hurting you if you love him enough, it’s probably not gonna happen.

@redweasel  
Self defense =/= aggression