Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
Capitalism has always had some degree of government intervention.

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
I see.

@Hypnosryan  
I think it’s impossible for there not to be government intervention in any kind of an economy, capitalist or otherwise, because governments, to my way of thinking, are inevitable. Sooner or later, somebody’s going to establish a monopoly of force.

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
Indeed, that’s something most Ancaps don’t realize

@neutralgrey  
Yeah, the end result of Anarcho-Capitalism would probably be something similar to the Congo Free State as I said.
 
Like, some guy with shit tons of money could easily just buy a massive private army and initiate a brutal dictatorship, nobody would be enforcing the Non Aggression Principle at that point.

@Hypnosryan  
How can there be money without a government?

@byte[]  
Paper money doesn’t have to be the only thing of value around. And you don’t necessarily have to pay your armies directly if you can promise them plunder.

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
No, but then it’d probably be referred to as a trade.
 
Fair enough.

@Hypnosryan  
Indeed. The mercs don’t even have to be from a PMC they could just be random dudes he hired

@byte[]  
Alt-currency like bitcoin probably.

@Hypnosryan  
Bitcoin depends on the presence of one internet. In an anarcho-capitalist world there could be hundreds of thousands of private networks instead of a single connected internet.

@byte[]  
Yeah, true.
 
I mean, keep in mind this is still Anarcho-Capitalism we’re talking here, it’s not exactly an ideology based on reality.

Anarcho Capitalism ignores the class reality of the economy and the fact that without the state, Private Property cannot exist  
Private property is enforced by the state that’s the reason why the state exists  
Not to mention the Anarchy of the Market and that the Markets forces the workers to work under Private Property  
Market “Socialism” is flawed in that Markets chain the workers to their workplaces as they have to work for exchange value

@Commune
 
So you disagree with mutualism and phoundhon then?
 
But I don’t believe in command economy, think a Democratic economy controlled by the workers syndicates would best.

Did anybody catch what Emmanuel Macron said recently about the “7 to 8 children per [African] woman”?
 
Now it’s official: though he may have gotten some flak from the right for claiming to denounce the “crimes of colonization” during his campaign, our new president is nonetheless a neocolonialist dumbass himself.

@Ereiam  
what? he was simply stating a fact! The way things are going it will get far worse in Africa………

@Shirani  
A fact that is a gross exaggeration (the average fertility rate in Africa is 4.7 children per woman and only in two countries it is still over 6), which bears testament to how hopelessly cliché his vision of this region and its issues (and consequently the solutions to provide thereof) is.

@¢hΓ¥$ª└ì$  
I’m a Marxist  
Of course I disagree with Mutualism(tho it could work for a transitional state) as well  
 
Though admittedly I would rather live in a Mutualist society than a pure capitalist one anyways
 
@Ereiam  
A rich first worldist president is disconnected from the poor third world workers  
Well, To quote Paul Joesph Watson,  
“Imagine my shock”

@Commune  
Yeah, mine too, considering he already shoved his foot in his mouth earlier by contrasting “those who succeed” with “those who are nothing” (about how both can be found in railway stations). Talk about class contempt…

@Commune
 
@Ereiam  
I will not live in a society that forbids people to excel….I would rebel against such a system.

@Shirani  
Allowing people to excel is fine. Allowing them to tread over those who didn’t have such luck isn’t.

@Shirani  
Socialism is not anti-meritocracy  
This is like a meme tier understanding of socialism  
In fact many socialists oppose capitalism because it isn’t a meritocracy and surplus value accures not to the people who actually make it but to the people who exploit it

@Ereiam  
impeding those who actually do better because they excel is not a world I want to live in. You people are advocating for just that. “Allowing them to tread over those who didn’t have such luck isn’t. “ Tread over how? by actually doing better than other people is a sin now?

@Commune  
you say that socialism promotes meritocracy by redistributing wealth that people themselves worked for. How is THAT meritocracy?

@Shirani  
When did I advocate for dumbing down those who do better? I actually think we should do the opposite by helping those who struggle, stop putting words in my mouth.
 
@Shirani  
When they stop working for it and live off the annuities of what they hoarded while hard-working people barely manage to make ends meet, some form of redistribution becomes a social necessity.