MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread

Mr.Myoozik

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This episode: Exists
Diabetics: Screaming in confusion

Episode was fun, the idea of there being a magical vending machine where you can get any snack you want and have it be a magical world inside is a creative idea. I also got Game Of Thrones vibes from Kevin acting like a king of the snacks.

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Dragonpone

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Badge Dragon

@TheQuietMan

@Dragonpone

Reunifying the species from the epilogue of G4 (Least likely to happen)

Seeing this made me sad. Because 1. you do agree with me on this but said nothing until I read it and 2. least likely to happen is sadly the case here given what happened the year before with using so few elements outta many they already established. All because of some copyright.

I mean I’ve held that view for a while, I didn’t even think it was likely back in the earlier bits of G5. I thought it then and it’s still an opinion I hold - More than the loss of magic or the skipping of Luster Dawn, the breaking up of the non-ponies is my least favorite part about the way G5 handled it’s succession.

We got a few species back, and I guess I’ll give ‘em credit for properly using the Breezies, which not even G4 did. I can even convince myself that the reason the species are not typically hostile when Sunny and co. meet them is because of the work the Mane 6 put in during G4. But even assuming G5 goes for another couple years, I just don’t think it’s at the top of their priority list to recreate that ending.

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Crackpot Quackpot

Erratically Sane

@DerpyFast
I thought you’re one of the people who just plain didn’t like how IDW handles MLP and if you ask me. If you always liked it, well, welcome to the club. It’s probably the only club G5 has now. Oh wait, you meant if I’m counting IDW as part of the connections? Yes. Fun fact for everyone of you here. Doc Anubis has gotten hands on TYT animatics and um….turns out they were gonna do their own version of SYS. Not that it matters at this point but something tells me that that would have most definitely like with g4 back then, retcon every bit of story that IDW told but well, if it never came to be then there’s no retcon. So I guess they won by having SYS be considered the canon seapony rediscovery story. If at the cost of Destiny being snapped from existence.

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CoffeeHorse

I’m kinda glad that IDW’s version of SYS is never going to be retconned now, because they did a great job with it. It’s my favorite G5 story since the movie.

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Former Trini-Mite

Does anyone believe there is going to be a link to the Tell Your Tale animatic files?

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CoffeeHorse

Eventually, no doubt. The files exist. They’ll leak.

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Blackblade360

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The leaks are already out:
https://www.tumblr.com/g5mlp/762266784133988352/unreleased-animatics?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/g5mlp/762273216137969664/merpony-concept-art-for-an-unreleased-episode-of?source=share

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CloudMistDragon

Misty Shadow

Glad this person gets that the cruel treatment G5 was given had nothing to do with it “being bad”.

https://x.com/PhoenixRedtail/status/1837865421568893262

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Background Pony #49E2

@CloudMistDragon
Agreed.

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Wiimeiser

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@CloudMistDragon
Then there’s this reply, which I guess is a good indication of what’s really going on…

I wonder if this would make the Top 10 Corporate Mismanagements list?

EDIT: Four episodes left, tops. The other 75 or so are lost to the aether.

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@CloudMistDragon

Glad this person gets that the cruel treatment G5 was given had nothing to do with it “being bad”.

https://x.com/PhoenixRedtail/status/1837865421568893262

It is as I had said. Something was wrong, and it’s not with the workers behind the G5, the G5 itself or anything - but what is very aptly called “corporate fumbles” - it seems that there had been unrealistic expectations that led to uncontrolled downsizing until these ended up on the cancellation line today.

Unfortunately, Disney+ was not attractive - Hasbro and Disney are competitors - but it is clear that Netflix has a very serious problem that had become very harmful to G5’s long-term viability. It was not smart to bet on MYM and TYT, the idea was to have an advertising effect with free screenings to lure people over to the expensive series, but it went wrong in the end. It is obvious that things had been anything but tidy around Boulder Media, eOne and Atomic Cartoons - and that is not only due to the financial difficulties. Covid had of course done a lot of damage, and it continues to do so. But as I said, the damage could be limited - and it had not been done.

What is very appalling is that the G5 was not fully invested in the toy front - this may be due to financial difficulties, but it does mean that further investment in the G5 will then produce a minimal return beyond the entertainment front, and there had poor script quality and serious limitations on content an earthquake effect. Instead of correcting the situation, Cocks had chosen to invest elsewhere, anyone who has followed the toy front knows that there is an upswing in toys from there - just not in the traditional places. This may indicate a reluctance.

“ - I’m honestly scared Hasbro are giving up on MLP after this, that we mightnt get a G6 at all, all because they were afraid to try new things - “

Cocks will bet on gaming, “kidadults” and new strategy, but it has been noticed that he seems more questionable than early as a decisive leader who has far too many things to keep track of, Hasbro is too big when it comes to brands. There are almost twenty brands from Action Man to Transformers, and that’s with a smaller budget than before. MLP ended up being the loser because the G5 came out at a critical time between the end of Covid and the energy recession started by the Russians (the Germans need to take responsibility, they are in serious trouble because they were so stupid with their energy policy), just when it all started to fall apart.

We could understand why MYM had to be shut down. We could understand low budget. We could understand the need to extend the time with TYT until 2025. But we cannot understand bad management. Because that seems to be the main problem.

There were supposed to be 100 TYT episodes, we only get 25. Instead of taking courage, these chose to be cowards and drag out the time as long as possible, keeping everyone - fans, customers, workers, investors, other companies - for fools until it burst. They should have been open with their cancellation decision as early as February or early in the year. Instead, we had to be put on the torture bench for half a year. This is formidable customer service - NOT!

It is time for those in power to ponder the whole matter surrounding the current management at Hasbro, Microsoft employees do not have a good reputation for transparency in dealing with the public. And this is the biggest problem; since autumn 2022, there had been incredibly little transparency for almost two years!

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Background Pony #49E2

@Background Pony #23F1
Hasbro giving up on MLP is stupid, though considering how the fumbles went, I wouldn’t be shocked if they ended up at best making it dormant.

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@Mr.Myoozik
Liked it, too.

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Background Pony #23F1

@Background Pony #49E2

@Background Pony #23F1
Hasbro giving up on MLP is stupid, though considering how the fumbles went, I wouldn’t be shocked if they ended up at best making it dormant.

These are not my words; but it is very clear that there is an “Icarus phenomenon” here, the G4 had become so big, so that you then set unrealistic expectations even though most fans in 2020-2021 were generally realistic enough to understand that the G5 will not be in the same league. There was a downturn because Hasbro’s management was unable to present a good salvage job when the accident had occurred. There were a number of promises in addition to the promise that the G5 would be a sequel to the G4 with the continuation of the lore from the previous generation.

Remembered particularly well that it was supposed to be “a little more mature” - we didn’t get this. The ANG movie and the Transformers: ONE movie have many common characteristics, but they are very drastically different - much more tension, more violence, more controversy, more worldview - ONE was everything that ANG could have been, adapted to a younger age group - and we know that it had been rewritten at short notice. The original plan was that G5 should take place in the aftermath of a war between pony tribes several thousand years after the end of G4. Oh, how I wished this was chosen!

Even before the ANG movie was completed, the spiral towards today’s situation began - three years later. Hasbro is having trouble preserving the legacy of MLP. They want to bet on retro and then on China, but most of the G4 fans have gone away and G5 fans had been badly treated. China is an uncertain subject to bet on in a politically turbulent time. We know about Ponyverse, but it is said that this had been canceled without knowing what might come!

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CoffeeHorse

There is no way Cocks is giving up on MLP at the same time he’s bragging to institutional investors about how much money it’s making in China. If anything, he probably thinks a pivot back to G4 will be consistent with his kidult strategy.

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Background Pony #49E2

@DSB71013
True.

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GoodVibesGorgeous

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@DSB71013
I don’t think going back to G4 would be a good idea. But whatever tickles their pickles is fine to some.

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Applepie2010

Nostalgia Nerd

The original plan was that G5 should take place in the aftermath of a war between pony tribes several thousand years after the end of G4. Oh, how I wished this was chosen!

And me

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Blackblade360

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I got some interesting news from the G5 wiki discord server:
“New channel on Samsung Smart TVs that plays MLP 24/7. Thanks to Kewpiekinz for the info and photos”
https://www.tumblr.com/g5mlp/762440886374318080/recently-a-tv-channel-that-only-plays-my-little?source=share

“Samsung TV Plus is a free streaming service for Samsung Smart TVs that allows you to watch live channels 24/7.

My Little Pony received its own channel sometime last week. It airs episodes of Tell Your Tale, meaning this is the first time the show has been streamed outside of YouTube and Netflix.

Aside from TYT, it also airs episodes of Friendship is Magic, Pony Life, and My Little Pony: Original Series. Big thanks to Kewpiekinz for telling us and for letting us use his photos.

So far, no further information appears online. The channel may not appear on all Samsung Smart TVs because it is still new and it may be US only.”

@DSB71013

@Background Pony #23F1

@Background Pony #49E2

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CoffeeHorse

@Applepie2010
That might have been better received. I wasn’t turned off by the backstory we ended up getting, but it wasn’t great.

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Background Pony #49E2

@Applepie2010
Ehh, it would’ve been good, but I’m not sure if it would’ve been watched. Much.

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CoffeeHorse

@Blackblade360
We got a channel that plays nothing but Pony. We won.

Interesting that G1 is on there as well. Maybe Hasbro is still moving ahead with that multi-gen plan.

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Background Pony #A159

@DSB71013
Possibly so.

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Midnox

@Blackblade360

I got some interesting news from the G5 wiki discord server:
“New channel on Samsung Smart TVs that plays MLP 24/7. Thanks to Kewpiekinz for the info and photos”
https://www.tumblr.com/g5mlp/762440886374318080/recently-a-tv-channel-that-only-plays-my-little?source=share

“Samsung TV Plus is a free streaming service for Samsung Smart TVs that allows you to watch live channels 24/7.

My Little Pony received its own channel sometime last week. It airs episodes of Tell Your Tale, meaning this is the first time the show has been streamed outside of YouTube and Netflix.

Aside from TYT, it also airs episodes of Friendship is Magic, Pony Life, and My Little Pony: Original Series. Big thanks to Kewpiekinz for telling us and for letting us use his photos.

So far, no further information appears online. The channel may not appear on all Samsung Smart TVs because it is still new and it may be US only.”

@DSB71013

@Background Pony #23F1

@Background Pony #49E2

I CAN’T BELIEVE IT. I’VE CHECKED A FEW DAYS AGO BUT THERE WAS NO PONY CHANNEL. BUT IT’S REAL. I think it’s not on older Samsung TVs, as my most recent one has it.

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Very interesting. Because if Cocks wants to bet on China, this service can’t just be for the US, the Samsung devices that came from South Korea are very popular all over the world and a first choice for most Europeans - I myself have a Samsung. Very many children in my country mostly have Samsung mobile phones - of course with parental controls which will soon be mandatory.

All generations are in the offer package from G1 to G5. Maybe this is why they had chosen to cancel TYT, they will move to this channel with already finished MLP works - and we know that is a lot. So if all the seasons from G4 can be shown, it could open up a continuation of G5 in the near future.

But why, why on earth this secrecy? That’s how I almost wanted to put Cocks on the torture bench and let him go through what we’d done in the last few months!

Now we need good news. Now only IDW comics are back, and we don’t know what is going on there. We can therefore only hope. Because if IDW were to continue the track from the ANG movie through the year 2025, they must have more arcs of the same quality as the Discord arc and SYS arc. There are certainly plenty of scripts from the canceled TYT - 75 episodes - for the IDW scriptwriters to study.

But it predicted slightly higher artist quality - these artists can only be counted on one hand.

As for the Chinese; they believe in authority, have a collective attitude, are concerned with common values linked to hierarchy, family and philosophical thoughts that may seem a little alien to the Americans and Europeans. We have a stream of comics from China called manhua which makes it possible to study Chinese ways of being. Considering that Faust had created a world with a status-based power hierarchy with inspiration from the Middle Ages, seasoned with technology from 1880-1920, it is perhaps not surprising that the Chinese like MLP: Friendship is Magic. The alicorns, the triad of the ponies into the intellectual unicorns, the industrious earth ponies and the warlike pegasi, god-like beings, mythological creatures - immortality, all-powerful magic with inner weaknesses - it is perhaps not so surprising that many Chinese had begun to appreciate the magical ponies who are actually far less individual than the American stereotype.

We have something of the same tendency, especially with the alicorns - Faust created a hierarchy that appeals right to us, demonstrated by the fact that the alicorns are always of interest to us. She, in turn, was inspired by the interaction between Megan and her little pony in G1, which she had seen on TV as a child.

So… if G5 were to continue… that might explain why the Storm arc in the IDW comics will be about Crown Princess Zipp’s future destiny as the future Queen Storm, when she wants to do a feat and prove herself to the pegasi. Then it could mean that Sunny will one day become a princess, and have the choice of taking over her predecessor’s throne or not. And Spike… the Chinese appreciate dragons.

But first; everything now depends on what IDW will do. They have become the last hope in the meantime.

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