Policy update regarding AI content

Gnot Even
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@Famekki
It doesn’t work in the US either. Cloudflare reports {host error}. That probably means the domain name hasn’t propagated thru the routing tables yet. I’d try again after a few hours.
Background Pony #BA32
Never had any issues with accessing tantabus. I’ve been going to the site a few times a day since this announcement. From Canada.
I hope what issues the rest of you are having, it can be fixed.
Background Pony #BA32
@Background Pony #0EB2
On the previous page of this discussion it was outlined that
  1. Removal won’t begin for another week
  2. It won’t necessarily happen immediately or all at once, just that the removal process will start
Background Pony #DFED
I’m very happy with the direction of this new policy. Allowing AI as a tool but holding it to high standards feels like the perfect balance. Encouraging significant human involvement ensures these pieces still showcase genuine artistry. Non-pony boorus should take notes. This kind of thoughtful policy-making is something every community can learn from.
Hats off to the mods for tackling such a tough issue and making the site better for everyone.
Background Pony #EF1E
@The Frowning Pony
I noticed a problem with the comments being imported from derpibooru to tantabus.
For many comments that were anonymous on derpi (posted by “background pony”) on tantabus there is added the user name of a person who initially posted that anonymous comment.
The only “background pony” comments without that are likely ones that were posted by someone who actually was logged off the site.
This creates a potential major problem for people who could be harassed later, for example if it’s about comments under NSFW images made anonymously from under account that person never wanted to associate with NSFW.
Here are a few examples of such cases:
Also, there’s another thing to possibly consider (though not as big of an issue):
the automatic “synchronization” of profiles that makes a comment appear to be posted from an actual tantabus account, if the user name matches the one that was used to leave that comment on derpibooru.
Theoretically it’s possible that a new user created an account with that exact name before the original user from derpibooru could do it. Then the comments made by some person could result being under the account of someone else entirely. Not that high of a chance of course.
UPDATED info:
Props to the staff acting fast! All the previously imported comments on tantabus are gone as of now!
Background Pony #BA32
I made an account on tantabus using the same name as my derpibooru account. The comments I made (even when made anonymously) are now attributed to my tantabus account. I can even edit such comments
I have made no connections at all between the two accounts.
Theoretically I could make an account with another derpi users name, and have their comments link to this new account, assuming this wasn’t done intentionally using ip-checks or other security measures
Background Pony #EF1E
It should have been done during the import so that if a person’s comment was marked as anonymous on derpi, it should be automatically marked as anonymous on tantabus, even if it’s connected internally to that user’s profile.
People’s desire to be anonymous for some comments should have been respected.
assuming this wasn’t done intentionally using ip-checks or other security measures
There’s actually no way to do so and be certain, as most people are behind NAT these days, so many people’s IPs would match.
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Devops
@Background Pony #EF1E
Hi, as a measure to resolve this as soon as possible the comments were deleted. The importer script is being revised by the Tantabus staff. It is unclear to me why the anonymous status of the comments was not respected (Tantabus and their staff should have had no access to this information to begin with), and why it was attributing comments to accounts with a similar name on Tantabus. I will be having a talk with the Tantabus staff.
Background Pony #B1FE
It is unclear to me why the anonymous status of the comments was not respected (Tantabus and their staff should have had no access to this information to begin with),
AFAIK the data source is the Derpibooru nightly database dumps, so if that information is not meant to be exported, the database dump system needs review.
It was clarified in a reply that a special, non-public dump was used, and the public dumps do not have this issue.
Princess Celestia
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Devops
@Background Pony #B1FE
I have identified the source of the information and it was resolved to never occur again.
Update (2025-01-15):
To be clear - this was entirely our (Derpibooru’s) fault. To make it simpler for Tantabus staff to import comments, we have provided Tantabus with a data export for the purposes of their import. Said data export accidentally contained data it should not have (not taking anonymous flag on the comments into account), due to a Derpibooru sysadmin’s mistake. Tantabus staff had no knowledge of that fact. As soon as this was discovered, we have asked Tantabus to delete said data, which was done 6 minutes after our request. We will be asking Tantabus staff to rely on our public database dump, which strictly contains publicly-accessible information, going forward.
After thorough investigation, we have determined that no other private data was contained in the data export we have provided. To our knowledge, the situation was discovered and resolved in a timely enough manner, so we have no reason to believe that it has been used by any third parties, or that any risk or damages have occurred.
To prevent any future incidents, we have implemented new internal policies regarding data usage by our systems administrators, and reviewed the persons who have access to the data. We will also be considering implementing changes to Philomena database structure to make it impossible for a mistake like that to occur again.
Background Pony #AD47
Deletion reason: Rule #0 and #6 - off topic, apparently attacking some other individual over a months or even years old G4/G5 argument
Background Pony #D45C
Since this is related to YOU hosting tantabus, you should know that they are not following the rules about respecting artists and are allowing full style copycat LORAs. It’s barely even launched and it’s already a disaster case for the community health. Walking back ethical standards so they can gen free commissions and impersonations.
https://tantabus.ai/images/37376 is clearly using Dvixie LORA, and one of the same prompters using Divixie LORA was deleted here on derpi. Either stop funding this, or get it straightened out. Artists do not want to see it.
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