Policy update regarding AI content

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There’s plenty of art that never touched AI that does the exact same thing, sometimes even worse. It kind of hurts your argument if those are the only things you can find wrong with the picture.
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>>3515607. That is an ‘ai composition’, and it is ‘ai content’. It is an example of the ‘ai content’ that is permitted,
Hmmm. Obviously it’s the mods call, but I cannot see anything in that image which appears to be human created. The description says “layering AI generations together” which I would take to mean combining multiple AI created images. I would think that would still count as an AI created image.
If this is a permitted AI image, I can see where there will be confusion on what the boundries are. The mods may need to put some additional effort into clarifing where the line is.
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I found a random image tagged ‘ai composition’ that I was fairly certain Kalenz had previously seen (because they had favorited it) as an example to show that we are not, as they they put it, “Banning all ai content”. It wasn’t meant as an invitation to critique the image or to be any kind of approval, or assessment, of the image. If it ends up being deleted for errors, fair enough. The point stands that all ai content is not being deleted simply for being tagged “ai content”.
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I mean, you said “It is an example of the ‘ai content’ that is permitted” Which makes me agree with Gnot that there doesn’t seem to be any sort of coherent standard in place here.
You know, there’s a site called “tantabus.ai” where all this stuff could be offloaded, and then you wouldn’t be here having to say “This is the content that is permitted, well maybe not specifically this, but something sort of like this, because vibes or whatever. Good luck!”
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As Shimauma mentioned, you described it as “an example of AI content which is permitted”. If it’s not a permitted image, then it perhaps was not the best choice to make the point you intended to make :-)
Anyway, I think it does raise an important point, in demonstrating there is a need for more clarity in what will constitute “permitted AI content”. Granted, that is not as easy a question to answer as Kalenz’s issue was.
One example which came to mind last night is a series of images a guy did a while back called “training your pony” (or something like that). They consisted of a “do” and “don’t” illustrating various points in an amusingly absurd way. Now the images were clearly AI (and weren’t claimed not to be), but equally obviously a lot of human creativity went into the various scenarios shown, and into imagining the illustration that the AI would be used to create. Would that be allowed? If I create a comic with a consistant storyline and use AI to illustrate it, is the story enough of a justification to allow the non-human art? (FWIW, I wouldn’t myself do that because I’m not a creative enough writer; and if someone did do so I would send it to tantabus since I think of this as an art site, and thus the human created story does not outweigh the AI created art).
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That will make the policy update less of a compromise and more of a half-assed plan.
Once again, that would be very in tune with the MLP community. If they do nothing about it, we will be in square one again.
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So with January 6th coming up pretty quick here, have there been any significant changes to the plan since the announcement, or is it all going ahead as planned?
I know there were talks about taking on community projects for the export of comments and other data on affected images, but I haven’t heard anything about that since
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@Background Pony #BA32
We plan to copy comments over, yes, thanks to a dedicated community member’s hard work. We’ll likely post about that once it’s done.
The 6th marks when we plan to start removing things, but it’s unlikely to be in just one go; the month was meant as a guaranteed “safe” period, not a hard deadline.
Background Pony #5363
I already filled in a report aswell but there seem to be “prompters” who already took to just having changed their tags to “AI composition” and still uploading despite the pictures very obviously beeing the same as before and clearly purely AI generated
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Will comments be saved on Tantabus? Some people wrote pretty creative stories under ai images, which would be a shame to lose forever.
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Well damn, I got sniped.
The answer is yes.
Which is also why I was about to post that the start of deletions is pushed back by ~a week, to make sure we set that up and process it correctly.
As well, we’re using that bit of time to investigate solutions for users in Russia not being able to access https://tantabus.ai properly.
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