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@Dex Stewart
The rule of six. Six elements made by the six pillars, later inherited by six friends who had six students of friendship. Kind of hard to miss the pattern, actually.

@Dex Stewart
Using the word “nothing” is assuming too much because g5 already shot themselves in the foot when they chose to ride g4’s lore coat tail instead of making their own.

@ichiban iceychan 1517
Actually no. The “test animation” you’re referring to is from a cgi animator that literally said he was hired to make promotional material for 2 ponies. Hitch and Sprout. According to his page, he said he was instructed to make promo art for those two ponies under the following description. Hitch is described as confident and egocentric while Sprout was described as grumpy and cowardly. I’ll try to find the link if I can but that was a while ago.

@Litrojia
Can you blame people that want to preserve the elements when it served as a mega mcguffin in most of g4’s lore? I’m not focusing on the characters. I’m focusing on g4’s concept of the rule of six.

Imagine if Transformers dumped the idea of energon and replaced it with something else called mech fluid. They also would never mention energon. Imagine if Ghostbusters stopped using proton packs and started calling them particle accelerators instead. What if Star Trek lore stopped describing transporters as matter energy converters and instead started saying they bend space time. Fans are gonna notice when things in the a developed lore are ignored or changed.

G5 already crossed a line when they had g4’s mane 6 appear at the start of their movie. They cannot uncross that line anymore.

@Dex Stewart
They had 2 members added later. Even Go Busters and Hurricaneja looked like its a trio only to reveal 2 more members later.

@Litrojia
Having Sprout immediately be integrated into the group because it happened off screen is bad writing. I don’t think the show runners will waste that potential. There’s a lot of story telling elements that can be done showing him grow over time. He’s literally named Sprout. It defeats the purpose if you don’t see the process.

The problem comes from people with a very narrow band of perspective regarding archtypes like Sprout saying he’s mean or whatever. People seem to have selective amnesia when it came to the mane 6 of g4. AJ and RD fought all the time. AJ and Rarity fought all the time. Twi abused her magic to get what she wanted in multiple occasions. And for lack of a better term, RD really was a cunt. She played pranks on every one.

If anything, Sprout feels like he rounds out the new g5 ponies because without him, their group is really boring. There’s no trouble maker or someone with an alternate perspective to things. He really feels like the AJ of the group who is not afraid to tell the truth as it is even if it hurts others feeling.

@ichiban iceychan 1517
Please elaborate so I may be enlightened by your perspective.

@Dex Stewart
I’m a fan of super sentai. They didn’t use the “6th ranger” concept until much later in the era. The traditional group was 5 with red always being leader (unless they were screwing around with anniversary specials.) But you will never find a combination in super sentai that is less than 5. There’s metal heroes and kamen rider and tokkusatsu traditions that are not written in stone but ARE followed because of tradition. I’m not familiar with the Power Rangers though. I’m not familiar with the american interpretation.

@Litrojia

There’s no rule to this but its a recurring theme that G4 has. G5 doesn’t need to use it if they were independent from g4 but the show runners chose to rely on g4’s lore for g5. So don’t be surprised if people find it jarring if there’s no representation of the rule of 6 all of a sudden. If done with TMNT, fans would ask why there’s suddenly 3 turtles instead of 4? If done with power rangers, why are there 4 instead of 5? Imagine Transformers show with an Optimus Prime character but no Megatron or vice versa. People will notice this.

@Litrojia
From what I’ve gathered, the stock promo art that’s constantly recycled was out sourced. The cgi models are slightly different from the movie rigs. They’re also quite old. Some of them were made when Pipp’s eyes were still red.

Oddly enough, Sprout also had “unfinished” promotional material but they were never used despite having cgi artists outsourced to make it. Considering the movie had a lot of unfinished talking points, my guess is Sprout’s redemption arc is part of the main series and since it hasn’t happened yet, promoting it would be literally spoilers.

@ichiban iceychan 1517
The problem with not having a sixth membet in g5 comes from the fact that it rides g4’s lore coat tail. G4 had a rule of six. Six main ponies, six elements, six pillars, six students and so on. If g5 did not want to follow this, they should have not relied on g4’s lore and started their own.

If you look at g1 to g3, they’re all independent from each other so you can have humans or an older Spike and it doesn’t matter. G5 is not independent. Imagine an iteration of ninja turtles and theres only three of them with no explanation. Or power rangers with just four of them. It disrespects.

@Pinto Bean
Replacing Kimiko Glenn killed the hype for me. She’s already in other netflix animations like Centaurworld. Why wouldn’t they keep her?

@Phoenixflambe
Me. That was my first thought that Sprout took the crystal.

@Background Pony #6FC9
I saw this days ago. Its kind of hard to tell what the movie was trying aiming for back then. Reminds me of that episode of Johny Bravo where he’s protesting with this picket sign that says “I like pie.” What’s worse is they’re using Argyle, a parent figure, for this scene. Kind of hard to empathize for them.

@Background Pony #DA4B
I think all unicorns can see luminessence. This was suggested when it was stated that unicorns have a superstition against pegasi being able to steal luminessence. How can a whole tribe have that belief when only one unicorn can see luminessence?

I also don’t see anything in the movie that suggests Izzy is neurodivergent. She seems like a relatively normal extroverted person. At least that’s how normal people used to behave before “labels” were invented to describe people’s “unconformed” behavior. “Not behaving like hive mind? You must be insert label.”

Bronies React MLPG5 Bonus
Interesting opinions about the g5 movie from people with different perspectives. Wish they would have something like a streamed discussion of it instead of just throwing opinions in a hat. Mad respect.

Bronies React: My Little Pony G5 - A New Generation
Great watch. Their different perspectives are amazing.

@GoodVibesGorgeous
The earth ponies didn’t even know they lost any kind of magic. The movie played off the idea that there were only 2 crystals. Anyone who is not familiar with mlp will actually believe that because earth ponies just look like regular ponies. I also vaguely remember a long time ago, the writers were talking about making sure all three pony tribes had their unique form of magic this time around. It involved making Twilight into an earth pony when they were originally going to use re-imagined versions of the g4 ponies for g5. Whatever magic it is, I don’t think it only involves strength or growing food this time.

@DaddyMakesMeEUHH
She trusts him enough to get the towns folk under control as acting sheriff while Hitch was away. Hypothetically if his mom gave him a job at Canterlogic, all he’d be doing is keeping the workers in line. Its easy to imagine Sprout would like that if all he wanted was to boss ponies around or if all he wanted was power. But no. He’s the deputy and Hitch is his boss.

@DaddyMakesMeEUHH
Yeah, he’s lazy. But that’s what nepotism is. You get the part even though you don’t qualify for it. Based on how Sprout’s mom treats him, the only reason I could think of why Sprout does not work in Canterlogic is because he chooses not to. He probably hates being deputy to Hitch but he does it anyway because he’s following his dream.

Its called branding. Canterlogic gets the credit. Its the same reason why all the chinese slaves that make your iphones or your nike high tops don’t get any credit. Besides, I don’t even think Sprout’s on Canterlogic’s payroll. He doesn’t work there. He could just show his ideas to his mom and she mass produces it at the factory. Maybe he does it on his own or maybe she asks him. I’m more inclined to think she asks him than doing it on his own especially if it gets in his way of doing his deputy work.

@DoctorWTF
CMs don’t always reflect the skill. Sometimes they reflect destiny. What do machines do? They create progress. Growth. A Sprout is synonymous with growing. Just look at Rarity’s 3 diamonds. Her talent is to find diamonds. Diamonds she uses to make clothing. And she’s more synonymous with making clothing than finding diamonds.

In a mass production factory, workers talk to the engineer about whatever it is they’re making. If they’re making Sprout’s robot, the engineers should be talking to Sprout. Now here’s the problem. The workers directly talked to Sprout. What does that suggest? Sprout’s the engineer because there’s no middle man/pony.

Here’s the setup. We have Phyllis who owns a factory that mass produces tech. At first I thought Phyllis designs the tech like some kind of Tony Stark character. But its shown she only runs the business aspect of the company. Her cutie mark shows bar graphs of stocks. She has a lot of workers in her factory but they’re just workers. Anyone who’s worked in a factory knows you don’t need a degree in mechanical engineering to work there. You just need to be man power. There’s a missing link here. Who designed the splatapults? Who designed the unicorn box traps? Someone needed to have built the very first one before it could be mass produced. The guy that draws the bridge to make sure it doesn’t buckle under a certain weight is not the same guy that mixes the cement and rivets the i-beams. Based on the picture I posted, Sprout’s the only one that drew and designed anything tech related in the whole movie. The quality is childish but it does not go against its function as plans for the designs of Sprouticus Maximus. Plus he’s also Phyllis’s son. He has a connection to the person that does own the company that mass produces the tech.

Another thing that’s curious is why does Sprout not work for Canterlogic? His mom coddles him so through nepotism, he could have easily been a vestigial manager at Canterlogic. Instead, he opted to play second fiddle to Hitch as the town’s deputy instead of being his own boss at his mom’s company. So with the missing engineer at Canterlogic and Sprout choosing to suffer as a deputy (a job that he’s not good at), I think Sprout does not embrace his talents with machines because it has nothing to do with his childhood dream of becoming the town’s sheriff.

@DerpyFast
What Canterlogic engineers were you talking about? That’s my point there weren’t any. The only one in charge of the project was actually Sprout. Even Phyllis literally says it was his project. Occam’s razor suggests that if there was no other pony representing the work force leader and Sprout was the only pony answerable to the project, the most likely conclusion is that, he was Sprouticus Maximus’s architect. Even though we didn’t see him tinkering with anything, nothing also suggests he couldn’t. The drawing on the board has questionable quality but it DOES suggest he designed it because of the drawings. I don’t think you should compare a custom built machine to a massed produced coffee maker. Mass produced devices are designed to be easily understood by the masses. I think a better comparison would be intuitively knowing how to install ubuntu in an android device without ever realizing it was possible.

@DoctorWTF
I would believe that if there was at least one smart worker pony working in canterlogic. But there weren’t any. You see them sleeping or slacking off or even even almost accidentally hurting each other.

I’m curious why people are ressistant to this idea that Sprout might be ignoring an incredible talent he has because he doesn’t want a tallent that has nothing to do with being a sheriff. Look at how ponies discover their cutie marks. They’re good at a certain thing with no training whatsoever. They don’t choose this either. Its intuitive.

Besides, even if it requires training and experience, how do we know Sprout doesn’t see machines like toys since he was a foal. Look at how he pilots Sprouticus Maximus. He knew exactly how to operate a thing that no ones ever seen before. Compare that to the Canterlogic expo part of the movie where the chubby pony that looks like Snips was specifically shown to not know how to operate the demo machine that Sunny got into. Sprout had no problems controlling his robot, making it do exactly what he wanted.

@DerpyFast
Someone with savant syndrome usually does not have any education or experience in their field of specialty. An example is a person that can play a musical instrument they’ve never even seen in their entire life. Another is someone that can make mechanical drafts of something they’ve only ever seen once. This usually comes at a cost of being unable to detect social cues. Ponies discovering their talents even though they don’t know why they’re good at it is reminiscent of an idiot geniuses like someone with savant syndrome.

Additionally, that board on the right is the closest thing in the movie that proves Sprout really was the architect of Sprouticus Maximus.

The board on the left has a design of Canterlogic’s anti unicorn mind reading helmet. The board on the right has designs for Sprouticus Maximus with words like “Me” and drawings of Sprout holding a smoothie. What are the chances of Sprout actually being some kind of mechanical engineering savant? He designs Canterlogic’s tech and then his mom monetizes them by mass producing them in her factory. The only reason he doesn’t work at Canterlogic either through merit or nepotism is because he doesn’t want to. Instead he wants to be Maretime Bay’s sheriff.

@Dex Stewart
My guess is because he’s the easiest to translate into g5’s 3dcg art style. He’s already a pony. No need to go crazy making new 3d models. Same with Cozy Glow but she doesn’t have any powers.