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To tell you this guys, I mean ponies, ai art is ruining actual artist irl and is hitting them hard.

I wish it hadn’t taken a year, but I’m glad AI is finally getting banned. It’s just pure slop!

@🐴
Aye, Wild Manes slots straight into the Guardians of Pondonia territory, its something MLP adjacent, but as you said it doesn’t have a fanbase big enough to justify its own site. Ai on the other hand is more like a tide, as a single session of someone prompting can produce more then an entire tag.

@ButtonFixer
If you have ai art that you don’t want to post on tantabus, may I suggest Twibooru.
Please check it out before you dismiss it as ‘just another altbooru’.

Allowing AI art is a good way to run out of storage space as people constantly upload their low effort images. The volume of AI art has been insane since it became more popular for people to do. It is a smart move to ban AI generated art for the longevity of any art hosting site.

@doomfister
A good contrast for AI art is the decision to allow Wild Manes art. When that announcement was made, there were those who flipped out at the INSVLT TO PONY PVRUTY their presence represented. However, it’s been a couple of months, and there’s no more than 300 of them. If WM were on pace to break 30,000 images in a year, I could easily see staff making a similar decision for that. 30k/yr is enough to seed a self-sustaining community. Pragmatism over arguments from first principles.

I was wondering when this was going to occur, as someone who doesn’t always have the filters up to disable viewing, i would frequently see spam dumps of 30 plus images for secondary characters. I assumed there were going to be issues, which some mods have outlined here regarding this form of content, so personally the only surprise I have, is that it took this long for it to be made into official policy; which to me speaks that it is a much bigger issue than what us normal browsers realized.

Oh well, now that this is settles, it’s a good use of time to actually make art, then

I see how this has been a major hurdle for moderators - especially since the rules presented to the public had little to no connection with the rules enforced by moderators. Of course offloading all the work on a different site with fewer resources will not resolve the problem at all, but as long as the mods are happy (for now) everyhing’s fine, right? Honestly, i’m just glad there are rules now, as opposed to the lawless tyranny that was 2024. At least y’all will fade away with some dignity

@The Frowning Pony
Who’s going to get to them first, you to strangle them, or Princess Celestia for the month on the moon?

@The Frowning Pony
lmfao

I am going to strangle you in your sleep.

@Background Pony #DF16
Yeah, just saw that part

@Background Pony #DF16
Please read the full post before you comment.

I never posted any AI art on here but I think this is a mistake. At least make a separate website or something. AI is only going to get bigger. Trying to sweep it under the rug won’t work.

@Ring Team
I was referring to this part of your post:

And yeah, pure neural network generation with no creativity in it can hardly be called art. Art is when you imagine a result and then try to achieve it, not when you roll the dice and accidentally get something pretty. This is why ai composition/ai assisted are allowed on Derpibooru - they require the artist to imagine a picture (or animation, etc.) and then make it real.

@Silver Smoulder
Barring the “dead Eurpoeans” bit, I’m basically here. Staff is going to be counting AI artifacts on the head of a pin trying to make calls when they should just relegate it all to Tantabus and show some respect to the artists who made this site viable to begin with.

@Background Pony #5902
I’m not talking about the AI approach in scientific disciplines. I’m talking about the AI approach in artistic disciplines.

Using AI to find solutions to health issues is fine. But we’re talking about art. Art is fueled by motivation and human creativity. That motivation comes from human experiences.

If people use AI, which lacks motivation, creativity and human real life experiences, to generate art and fill any image hosting website with waifus with seven fingers in one hand, no nose and weird use of lighting, composition and perspective issues, you invalidate these human features.

If you corrode these things about art, you corrode art. I don’t see a situation where this benefits anyone, but people do defend it regardless, which would be very in tune with the MLP fandom, and it could explain a lot of things about them.

I’m honestly not happy with all of this. Having to go to yet another site just to find things I find hot instead of having it all in one place is a pain in the ass. It was already annoying when artists split from derpi a while back and I had to go to Ponybooru to find people who were no longer posting here that I liked. Now this new site and I had to make another account, couldn’t even use my DB login info

There could have, and should have, been a better way of handling this.

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@Button Fixer
Derpibooru is not archive first, it’s community first and you can find a ton of art was removed at the request of people in the community under the DNP list. Removal of ai slop is a pro-community move, if you want pro-archive then use an alt booru.

They already said img2img assisted art is more likely to be accepted if that’s your workflow so you will probably not get mass deleted. But talking about exposure when ai buries art under slop is not much of an argument for where to post.

Tantabus is different from the other alt boorus because every alt booru was a copy of this one, where tantabus can try to build up their own users who enjoy or consume machine made images.

@Button Fixer
I think you should look at examples of what is “allowed” and what is “not allowed.”
Then view your posts and edits the tags.

I’m not really sure where to go with all of this now.
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The problem I have is that I’m sort of half Ai, half traditional art. Ai assisted exists but I have a feeling that changing my images to that now would just get me banned. What’s weird is I’ve used AI less and less over time (seriously how would you get this out of and image generator), and would probably qualify for the Ai Assisted tag. I haven’t used the tag much since when I did I got hate messages from ‘real artists’
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I don’t really want to go to Tantabus.ai because the altboorus are alway dead. Which makes sense really, since the point of derpibooru is to have an archive of all pony content all in one place for people to access.
Each Image takes me a few hours to produce properly, and I don’t think it’d be worth posting over there just for 10 people to see it (plus the people who would go there wouldnt have a great eye for quality work, sorry guys, no offence)
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@🐴
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If you still want to write about it, I’d love to read it! If you like, I could trace over that image and post it, then you could post the story under it :)
I believe you mean this one right? :
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I’ve been gone a few weeks and it kinda feels like I’m that meme of the guy walking in with pizza, and the entire place is on fire lol.
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To be clear, I hate low effort AI trash probably more than the average artist. And they should be removed from visibility. I am surprised that it was taking up so much of the moderators time with the two post a day policy. That’s got to be a lot of spoof accounts.
Anyway, I’ll see if tagging as Ai assisted is acceptable. I’ve got some nice comics in the works that I think people will want to see.

This is literally just the staff going “Yes this is good” according to their subjective wants. I looked at your guide and it’s all over the place. You need someone who is actually GOOD at art to make those criteria, but guess what - those would also be subjective. I don’t see why you need ai-generated or assisted or whatever images on the booru. None of it is art anyway, because it’s not made by a dead European from before the 20th century. If there’s a booru for AI images already just keep it ALL there and disallow all ai-related works from here. ezpz.