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All people have a right to be safe and free.
(Palestinian civilians are not the same as Hamas. Don’t even start.)
Any time you are saying “it’s okay to deliberately kill unarmed civilians including children en masse, because…” you should stop right there.

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Gnot Even
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@Background Pony #C74B
It’s pinpoint targeting to take out military targets, and unfortunate that civilians are held up to protect those military targets.
Except that it’s not remotely close to “pinpoint targetting”, and there’s no particular evidence that the IDF would try to “pinpoint target” if they could. Roughly 2% of the civilian population of Gaza has been killed. There’s no way to suggest that is a proportionate response.
Which river and which sea? From the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea? That would mean Israel would no longer exist.
Those are the historical bounds of Mandatory Palestine, so yes, that expresses a desire to return to the pre-WW2 borders. That, obviously, won’t happen. It does serve as a reminder that the Palestinians have been the big losers over the last 70 years.
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@Background Pony #C74B
Precision? Even if that were true, which it isn’t, someone using innocent people as human shields doesn’t mean you can just kill them. That is definitely a hard military problem to solve, but the solution is not and cannot be just murdering the innocent “human shields” en masse. That is still a war crime.
If a criminal takes a hostage to hide behind in a police standoff, in what world is it okay for the police to just shoot the hostage to get to the criminal?
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@Gnot Even
disproportionate response of the Israeli government
They’re only attacking locations where Hamas is. The problem is that Hamas uses humans as shields. They build their missiles and military installations within and underneath schools, hospitals, and residential buildings. It’s not “indiscriminate”. It’s pinpoint targeting to take out military targets, and unfortunate that civilians are held up to protect those military targets.
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Which river and which sea? From the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea? That would mean Israel would no longer exist.
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Inucroft

Hater of Nazi edgelords
“From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free.”
(Not hate speech nor antisemitic)
https://novaramedia.com/2023/10/18/dutch-court-rules-from-the-river-to-the-sea-protected-speech-and-not-antisemitic/
Israel has the right to exist and defend itself. It does not have the right to Commit Genocide & War Crimes against innocent Palestinians who themselves are victims of HAMAS. Neither does it have the right to illegally occupy & settle another country’s territory.
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@Gnot Even
They’re not really all that different. The disproportionate response of the Israeli government gives creedence to the idea that their intent is to drive all the Palestinians out of Gaza. I doubt we’ll ever know if that’s truly their goal, and I certainly don’t know, but definately the appearance of the war in Gaza and that in the Ukraine are close.
True. They are similar enough that I referenced them both in the same art.
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@Lindenbaum
@Stellarator and everycreature:
Don’t bring real world politics into ponys. It will lead to separating us from eachother
…and lead to comments like this: “Idiot is not worth your time.”
We can have different opinions. But we don’t need to fight who is right or wrong.
“Politics” is things on which reasonable people can disagree.
I would argue that the statements:
“it is bad to invade another sovereign country for the purposes of conquering it, regardless of who controlled it 50 years ago”
and:
“it is bad to indiscriminately kill civilians, including children, regardless of what terrible things were done by people claiming to represent them”
…are not statements with which reasonable people can disagree.
Disagreements about steel tariffs or tax reform are politics. Genocide and invasion aren’t. In the same way that saying “queer people have a right to exist” is not politics, even if some people disagree with that statement. It’s human rights.
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Gnot Even
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@Gnot Even
Props to Stellarator for having the courage to express his views. And I agree with him, countries that use military force against other countries are never in the right.
Yes even though the two situations are different.
In particular, targeting of civilians. Russia’s war on Ukraine is pure evil bullshit start to finish. Israel has a right to fight Hamas, but not to deliberately mass murder uninvolved civilians.
They’re not really all that different. The disproportionate response of the Israeli government gives creedence to the idea that their intent is to drive all the Palestinians out of Gaza. I doubt we’ll ever know if that’s truly their goal, and I certainly don’t know, but definately the appearance of the war in Gaza and that in the Ukraine are close.
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@Gnot Even
Props to Stellarator for having the courage to express his views. And I agree with him, countries that use military force against other countries are never in the right.
Yes even though the two situations are different.
In particular, targeting of civilians. Russia’s war on Ukraine is pure evil bullshit start to finish. Israel has a right to fight Hamas, but not to deliberately mass murder uninvolved civilians.
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PonTIAK

як українець скажу наступне: не порівнюйте Україну і Палестину, це зовсім різні ситуації
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Gnot Even
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Props to Stellarator for having the courage to express his views. And I agree with him, countries that use military force against other countries are never in the right.
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Dimon97

There should be peace in all countries, and I know for sure that it is now very difficult for Ukraine to defend itself from such a terrorist country as Russia!
And yes, this art is very good
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