@cloudkicker108  

 
Yes, I did, and I fail to see how that paragraph addresses any of the points I made other than to say “they’re there”, basically.
 

 
I’m just not giving you the time of the day because you’ve proved to me back then that you’re not worth it. I could write an entire ten pages essay of an “actual defense”, and you’d just shrug it off, call me biased and/or obsessed with Starlight while hypocritically claiming your view as “factual” and present the same “holier than thou” attitude you like to complain about.
 
Thanks, but no thanks.
 

 
Says the guy who kickstarted a discussion about Starlight back then on a picture that was about Spike and had nothing to do with Starlight?
 
Hypocrisy aside, lemme assure you, I don’t mind getting into arguments over Starlight in the slightest. I’m just not going to engage you in one because of the reasons stated above.
 
You wanna change that? Here’s an offer: Go back to that actual argument I made and you discarded, and properly address it this time, and then I’ll reconsider my stance with you and actually address you properly again.
 
Until then, toddles.

@Alexlayer  
Did you even read my comment? That statement about you being obsessed over hating Starlight was the very last sentence; there was an entire paragraph before that in direct response to your argument. And stop it with the holier-than-thou stance. Regardless of how I am behaving, you aren’t listening either.
 
Here’s a suggestion: if don’t want to get into unnecessary arguments over Starlight, don’t make poignant comments about her in image posts she has absolutely nothing to do with.

@cloudkicker108  

 
Why should I? I already tried that once, and you just ignored it all and went “Don’t you think you’re too obsessed with Starlight?”. So why, under any logic, should I waste time and effort putting together an “actual defense” as you call it, when I already know you won’t even listen?
 
You lost that respect from me back then.[/bq]

@Chuy Ryu  
Unlike Alexlayer’s argument, nothing about that has any merit. Twilight had initially sentenced Starlight to study friendship under her watch. It took time for the unicorn to completely win over the Princess of Friendship (Twilight was practically micromanaging her in “No Second Prances”), and even now she’s hardly what you’d call “besties” with the other five.

@Alexlayer  
you forget this  

@Alexlayer  
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say she wanted to go to Tartarus. And if they didn’t lock her up, she’d probably continue to do something more drastic to end up there anyways… whatever plan she has in store there. This is not the mentality of just any filly or even grown pones for that matter.  

@Alexlayer  
How about you come up with an actual defense instead of just paraphrasing your original comment? Anyway, Starlight never intended to destroy the world; her main in “The Cutie Re-mark” was always to seek vengeance on Twilight. You always seem to forget (or perhaps more accurately ignore) how mortified she was when she finally saw just how much damage she was causing. In the same vein, you consistently fail to acknowledge the severity of Cozy’s crimes for whatever reason. She does not get leniency just because she is a child. The fact she showed absolutely no remorse for her actions (whereas Starlight did) is ultimately what made the difference between reformation and Tartarus.
 
I’m not defending anything. I’m merely explaining the show to you. If you don’t like what you see, you’re always welcome to leave.

@cloudkicker108  
This show decided that a grown ass mare who ‘caused endless suffering and arguably destroyed the world multiple times over deserves to get away without suffering any consequences, even after fucking multiple times after supposedly reforming, yet a single filly, a child, should go to the closest thing to Equestria Hell.
 
And you’re trying to defend that.
 
Remind me again, why should I bother trying to reason with you?

Starlight accept Friendship but Cozy didn’t. If Cozy accept it that would be a whole different story.

@Alexlayer  
At any rate, you were still ignoring critical context in your original comment. Forced or not, Starlight proved she was better than Tartarus when she willingly turned herself over to Twilight. That’s more than Cozy can ever attest to; unlike Starlight, she was completely unrepentant upon her defeat. When given with the chance to reform herself, she immediately rejected the offer (while stating she was not going to back down from her plans at all, I might add) and then attempted to flee the scene. And while Cozy might only be a filly (at least in appearance anyway…), keep in mind this child nearly drained all the magic in Equestria for her own selfish pursuits.
 
Also, I find it funny you insist that I’m the obsessive one when you are the only one here to bring up Starlight in an image completely unrelated to her.

Cozy and pre-redemption Starlight are MLP:FiM’s best villains.  
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@cloudkicker108  

 
Like I said: Forced as hell.

@Alexlayer  
Not quite. Starlight was so mortified at the sight of the wasteland, she immediately went into denial, accusing Twilight of pulling a fast one over her. She refused to back down from her plans not because she didn’t care if the world was destroyed, but because she just could not believe preventing six ponies from becoming friends could lead to something so horrible. And her assuming all friendships would end up like what happened with Sunburst is what sent her off the rails in the first place. Being told that she can have a lasting friendship as long as she puts in her all is exactly what she needed to hear.
 
As for Cozy Glow, she not only outright rejected reformation when given the chance, but also attempted to make a run for it. Forced or not, Starlight had a much more mature response than that when she was in a similar situation.
 
@Background Pony #7461  
How exactly is Starlight worse than Tirek? Sure, she used extremely invasive techniques to ensure her doctrine would be adhered to, but at the end of the day, she genuinely believed she was helping ponies, albeit in her own misguided way. Tirek, on the other hand, stole magic from the ponies and laid waste to their land for no other reason than because he hates ponies. One is acting out of emotional wounds, the other is acting out of pure malice.
 
@Background Pony #7461  
No. Not in the slightest.

@Background Pony #6CF9  
Can the pony Russians just leak everything already?!

I can already see her rising out of hell with the worst tartarus has to offer. At this point she has to be connected to the series finale; there’s literally no time left for the series! What if… Her master plan ends up destroying Equestria, and the Elements Of Harmony are used one last time to put everything back together again to the best of its ability… And G5 is created?
 
Jesus Christ I haven’t been this hype for mlp in a while!

@Background Pony #AE85  
Are you serious? “World domination on equality”? Starlight couldn’t care less about her equality by the end of season 5, she just wanted Twilight to suffer what she suffered when Twilight took her village from her. Is that so hard to understand? She didn’t want to destroy the world, she just wanted revenge. Did Starlight look happy or excited when she saw the ashes? Because a sociopath would be smiling with great joy if they saw that everything was turned into ashes. And Sunset Shimmer didn’t only brainwash teenagers to take over Equestria, which by the way sounds ridiculous. Seriously, whose idea was that? Even Cozy Glow, who is just a little girl, had a better idea. Sunset tried to kill Twilight and her friends, too. Or did you forget that she threw a giant fireball at them?

I think… She will be the one to free Grogar !!!

Pony Universed  
Nightmare moon : Eternal night  
Discord : Turn Equestria into Chaos land  
Queen Chrysalis : Want all the love in Equestria  
King Sombra : World dominaton using mind control and start a civil war.  
Tirek : Want Equestrian magic all to him self  
Starlight : World domination on Equality and almost destroy the world  
Cozy Glow : World domination by get rid the Equestrian magic.
 
EQG Universed  
Sunset : Brainwashed entire teenage school student to take over Equestria  
Dazzling : World domination using their voices  
Sci-Twi/Midnight sparkle : Almost destroy both world at the same time because she want magic  
Gloriosa: Trap every one in dome plant to protect the camp site  
Juniper : Trap mane 6 in mirror  
Wallflower : Wipe out memory from other people  
Vignette : Almost crush everyone in parade without her noticing it.

Cozy is by far one of the most evil villain in the show

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@darknessRising24  

 
No. But you gotta consider the damage she’s done to earn herself a cage.
 
That is, better to watch the episode or chat with people who seen it; I’ve only saw the images out of curiosity.
 
@kuco  

 
She’s worse than Gideon Gleeful before his Heel-Face Turn…

I mean, Starlight wanted world domination, right?

@Alexlayer  
Totally. Starlight was evil encarnate. She wanted to conquer all of Equestria and she did all of that because she ‘lost’ her boyfriend and not because the mane 6 took something special from her that it was her village and she wanted Twilight to feel the same. She also hurt Twilight’s friends in the past countless of time. She tortured them all. She was the evilest villain in the show. She was above Tirek in evilness. She should have been killed, too. She was too evil to be caged.

@Background Pony #6A9B  
We will have to wait and see.

@Background Pony #2781  
Hai. TV special. Not unlike the holiday specials on NBC of every damn Dreamworks movie ever. X3