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I agree.
Havin’ now seen the finale, I feel she was entirely in her right to send her straight to hell, honestly should have been deeper.
No.
S8 Finale? You mean when Spike met his dad?
No argument here XD
@Background Pony #00E4
Don’t click this unless you’ve seen the Season 8 finale: She was totally cool with sending a little kid to literal hell for doing things that were not nearly as bad as other villains she tried to redeem, so it’s like 50/50 odds either way. I think she just flips a coin to decide if to reform or to obliterate :P
Not even close.
The only problem with Dusty is that she never got a chance in the first place.
Instead of of getting the additional training and guidance she needed she was humiliated and expelled.
All what Dusty needs is a positive influence and some motivation so she can work on her flaws instead of being humiliated again and again.
Sadly Spitfire completely failed to give her that.
Hopefully one of the Mane 6 or Glimmy can help her out.
Edited
Lightning Dust is harder to reform than Discord because of their types of behavior. Discord didn’t understand anything about friendship or being an adjusted member of society, so as soon as he learned he could change.
Lightning Dust already knows, but refuses to change because she doesn’t care.
That doesn’t make it impossible, of course, but saying “x did z, so x could do y” isn’t good evidence.
Edited
I would like an episode where that happens and she helps her to become a better pony.
After all, Twily is a big fan of the Washouts.
@Red-Supernova
Exactly.
If even Discord can change for the better, Dusty can certainly do that, too.
All she needs is some motivation.
I’m sure if twilight was around for any substantial period she’d have tried to help LD.
PFFT! Discord was ten times worse than Starlight and Lightning Dust combined!
Like, I agree that Dust did a ton wrong. Just, if there was like an asshole scale with 1 being like a snide comment and 10 being Kanye West, Dash and Dust were both 4s and Spitfire was like a 6. Conflicted or not, Dash was too absorbed with what SHE wanted to do anything about such reckless behavior. There’s literally zero difference between what Dust did and what Dash did: they both knowingly and willing endangered others to get what they wanted :P
I still think Starlight was much worse than Dust, too. Dust had a motive and an end game: be the best at any cost. Starlight was just making people suffer because that made her feel better about being dumped like 20 years ago, and endangering some people on an obstacle course pales in comparison to outright imprisonment, psychological abuse, and borderline torture. Dust is a dick but she’s LEAGUES above Starlight (nevermind Dust was also punished and exiled without a chance to change rather than being given all the second chances and freebies) :P
Being flawed and reckless doesn´t make her a sociopath.
Neither does trying to safe face.
She is just a pony that has still much to learn.
If you want a sociopath, take Cozy Glow.
Not enough to do anything about it until her wing was clipped and her friends were endangered, though she wasted no time crying to her boss because she didn’t get the special treatment she believed she deserved. It REALLY shows that up until a rewrite of the ending Dust was supposed to get a second chance, because she and Dash, and Spitfire are all real equally rotten in that episode. Honestly I still think Dust was the least bad of the three; I’d rather have to rely on a jerk-ass like Dust than a selfish whiny little wuss like Dash, or have female Doug Neidermeyer there in charge of me any day of the week D:
Dash never cared that her actions were wrong or her teammates in danger either
No more reckless or uncaring than Dash, honestly. Dash never cared that her actions were wrong or her teammates in danger either; just that her personal friends were in danger. Really the only depicted difference between Dash and Dust was people Dash DID care about happened to (very VERY stupidly) show up and be endangered. There was seriously never a point in that episode where Dust’s actions or moral scope was any worse than Dash’s (or Spitfire’s, for different reasons); I’m not saying don’t punish Dust, but there’s no fair or moral scenario where only Dust gets punished (let alone one where Dash gets rewarded for some reason) :P
Edited because: Autocorrect ate my :P
Yes, she’s narrowed her focus from “doesn’t give a damn about anyone” to “doesn’t give a damn about a smaller group of people”, that’s definitely character growth or… something.
Both the acting and character animation in that scene made it perfectly clear that she still doesn’t really care, but she’s learned that she needs to act like she does. I still hope she gets the chance to come back again for a story where we find out that she faked it ‘til she maked it and genuinely is sorry for her callousness, but that’s not the story we got this time.
And no, she is not a scumbag.
Just reckless.
She was SAD
Yeah, lots of scumbags make sadface when the Judge pronounces their sentence and the Bailiff leads them to a cell. It’s not remorse if someone is only sorry because they got caught and punished, and at no point in either of her appearances has LD ever acknowledged that anything she did was wrong in any way. She may not be a “monster”, but she is demonstrably a terrible person, with no regard whatsoever for the welfare of others.
I know, she was completely heartbroken and devastated when she got kicked out.
She still waved Dashie goodbye, so she did care for her.
Dusty might have had a very rough time after her expulsion and developed a grudge against the Wonderbolts.
It is really sad to see a great character with much potential wasted like that.
Hopefully she gets another chance; this time with better writing and a happy ending.
Everyone needs to look at the ending of Wonderbolts Academy again. She wasn’t pissed about being expelled. She was SAD. Either emotion leads to resentment but the latter is proof that she’s not a complete monster as this episode tried to portray her.
@Badumsquish
@genervt
I remember in the comics, Spitfire said that she had no interest in being a leader and BOY does it show here.
Dusty was indeed resentful about the Wonderbolts.
And Spitfires cringy appearance bordered on child abuse.
It would have been much better if she had a stern but reasonable talk with Scootaloo.
Even ignoring the likely possibility that Dust being genuinely wronged in Wonderbolts Academy changed her for the worse (an excuse used to justify the awful behavior of countless others in the show), someone else being bad doesn’t automatically put Spitfire in the right. Besides, violently shaking someone else’s child by the throat/shoulders like in this picture is just as bad as Dust’s disregard for Scoot’s safety so she STILL doesn’t have the high road :P