BP2 what do you mean losing doesn't make sense, our goal was to have the voice, name, and eyes stay the same way and that didn't happen, not reaching your goal is losing, and saying we gave up is basic the same thing. Maybe you like give up better because it makes you think that if we keep trying we will reach it, but we won't so that's why I use the term "lose"
Fanloser there is no right reason to watch a show.