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Your wording here is confusing. I have not attempted to prevent open support at all for a candidate, this was my thoughts on something that might work better so we aren’t stuck in a two party system for an eternity. One that the main reason no other party really has a chance to break into now is due to money. Implying that a system should be fairer and allow changes instead of the polarizing stagnation we are suffering due to two sides that half the time refuse to work together just on principal is not a bad thing.
The comparison was on the fact that World War 2 happened around 80 years ago and the majority of people have moved past it and the Civil War happened much earlier and there are still people who can’t get over it. It just doesn’t make sense to me to hold a grudge for something that happened before you were born. More so that everyone involved is long dead and gone.
Nothing is ever ‘good vs. evil’, all beliefs ethically, society-wise, and religious wise are just our own thoughts on them and never constitute a real ‘good’ or real ‘evil’ due to a lack of any real universal law existing.
Your forefather’s weren’t wrong to try it, they just didn’t have the power on their side needed to make what they believed in a reality. That’s war. As for ‘bad guys’, c’mon, how do you write about a group that tried to betray the country and break off from it? It’s hard to make that sound ‘good’ and still get across the point that turning against America is a bad thing.
As for re-writing history, you do understand that everyone does it? I wouldn’t be surprised if the schools you attended made the North out to be the bad side as opposed to ‘It was all grey on everyone’s part’. History, religious books like the bible, they’ve all been altered by one person or another at some point to serve someone’s ends. Many states back then had their own bible’s during that time that explained why slavery was a good thing even.
And as for states rights, I dunno. I personally have always viewed state government as just the smaller branch of the federal government, not it’s own, independent thing. One would not live long without the other in this day and age. I think that the federal government should control gun laws considering how much of a large scale impact they have on our society. I DO think we have way too many congressman and representatives and all that now. I mean, seriously? Getting 400 or more people in a room and trying to get something decided? 20-100 pages laws that get voted on, but only 1/4 of the people voting MIGHT have took the time to read it? Making a bill and then attaching a dozen other pieces to it so a bill with a good idea is now weighted down by a dozen bad ones? Bah, I’m rambling, but, there is much to be desired in our government. In ALL governments.
Campaign contributions? The first amendment deals with free speech, not campaign contributions. o.O Or are you saying that by setting limits on what can be spent in a election, to help curb the ridiculous spending and lack of any other viable option beyond the two party system, you would, somehow, feel repressed? I’d personally prefer it over a bunch of candidates that are all abysmal and refuse to answer anything honestly so I know their position.
‘A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
Right, you do realize that amendment says nothing on what types of fire arms people should be allowed to keep? Nothing in there says ‘all firearms, be they gatling guns or even bigger should not have any regulations or safety requirements in regards to ownership’..;;
Even if you do believe that, you realize that amendment has already been messed with, right? Felons are prohibited from owning firearms. So yes, clearly this amendment does not mean that gun regulations are illegal by the Federal government.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
If Healthcare, minimum wage,and business practices were problematic under the 10th amendment, then people would have brought it up and fought it already, right? But, Health care is here, businesses not being allowed to discriminate against peoples race or culture are here, and we have minimum wage laws. I have not heard anything about judges declaring any of them a breach of the 10th amendment.
Right, so 74% of Americans aren’t for it, and active support was ‘they told the person taking the poll they would be good with seceding.’ Mind you, that brings up good questions on where the poll was done, but I’ll just go with the ‘statistically, you can prove or disprove anything with statistics’ line as you used the ‘cold dead hands’ one earlier.
You should also know that Ipos/Reuter surveys are mainly online polls, many of which only have a little over a thousand participants. Heck, they even had Hillary Clinton polled as winning the election.
That…is actually a map of Republicans and Democrats, nothing to do with what we are talking about. That or you are showing me a map of red being the least populated places in America, and blue being where the majority of people live.
I’m assuming you aren’t republican, considering you don’t like big government and say you dislike big business, so I really don’t get why you would bring up a map like that to try to prove a point. Especially considering a great deal of republicans aren’t from any of the states you like to call ‘southern’. Much like a great deal of democrats aren’t ‘northern’.
It is amusing to me as I go through and find new things, how the Rebel flag only gained real popularity in the late 1940’s when the “Dixiecrats” came into existence to oppose Civil Rights for black Americans.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150626-confederate-flag-civil-rights-movement-war-history/
I’m pretty doubtful that National Geographic has an agenda to make the ‘South’ look bad, so yeah.
Actually, your attempt to prevent people from openly supporting the candidates they want and ’equalize’ airtime is a violation of the free speech of the supporters (as clarified by Citizens United).
Your wording here is confusing. I have not attempted to prevent open support at all for a candidate, this was my thoughts on something that might work better so we aren’t stuck in a two party system for an eternity. One that the main reason no other party really has a chance to break into now is due to money. Implying that a system should be fairer and allow changes instead of the polarizing stagnation we are suffering due to two sides that half the time refuse to work together just on principal is not a bad thing.
Respectfully, your comparison with Germany is absurd. Germany attempted to expand its empire through Europe and killed millions of innocent people for their religion or skin color, and most people in Germany have long-since accepted that they were the ’bad guys’.
The comparison was on the fact that World War 2 happened around 80 years ago and the majority of people have moved past it and the Civil War happened much earlier and there are still people who can’t get over it. It just doesn’t make sense to me to hold a grudge for something that happened before you were born. More so that everyone involved is long dead and gone.
In the case of the war of northern aggression, there is no cut and dry ’good’ and ’evil’. We haven’t ’gotten past it’ because a) our forefathers weren’t wrong to attempt to create a southern nation, b) y’all keep trying to rewrite the history (as seen in this thread) to give us the role of the ’bad guys’ and c) the phenomenon of a federal govt not respecting our states’ rights has not ended.
Nothing is ever ‘good vs. evil’, all beliefs ethically, society-wise, and religious wise are just our own thoughts on them and never constitute a real ‘good’ or real ‘evil’ due to a lack of any real universal law existing.
Your forefather’s weren’t wrong to try it, they just didn’t have the power on their side needed to make what they believed in a reality. That’s war. As for ‘bad guys’, c’mon, how do you write about a group that tried to betray the country and break off from it? It’s hard to make that sound ‘good’ and still get across the point that turning against America is a bad thing.
As for re-writing history, you do understand that everyone does it? I wouldn’t be surprised if the schools you attended made the North out to be the bad side as opposed to ‘It was all grey on everyone’s part’. History, religious books like the bible, they’ve all been altered by one person or another at some point to serve someone’s ends. Many states back then had their own bible’s during that time that explained why slavery was a good thing even.
And as for states rights, I dunno. I personally have always viewed state government as just the smaller branch of the federal government, not it’s own, independent thing. One would not live long without the other in this day and age. I think that the federal government should control gun laws considering how much of a large scale impact they have on our society. I DO think we have way too many congressman and representatives and all that now. I mean, seriously? Getting 400 or more people in a room and trying to get something decided? 20-100 pages laws that get voted on, but only 1/4 of the people voting MIGHT have took the time to read it? Making a bill and then attaching a dozen other pieces to it so a bill with a good idea is now weighted down by a dozen bad ones? Bah, I’m rambling, but, there is much to be desired in our government. In ALL governments.
Until you successfully amend the constitution to repeal the 1st amendment, leave my campaign contributions alone.
Until you successfully amend the constitution to repeal the 2nd amendment (good luck), leave my guns alone.
Until you successfully amend the constitution to repeal the 10th amendment, leave my healthcare, minimum wage & employment regulations alone.
Campaign contributions? The first amendment deals with free speech, not campaign contributions. o.O Or are you saying that by setting limits on what can be spent in a election, to help curb the ridiculous spending and lack of any other viable option beyond the two party system, you would, somehow, feel repressed? I’d personally prefer it over a bunch of candidates that are all abysmal and refuse to answer anything honestly so I know their position.
‘A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
Right, you do realize that amendment says nothing on what types of fire arms people should be allowed to keep? Nothing in there says ‘all firearms, be they gatling guns or even bigger should not have any regulations or safety requirements in regards to ownership’.
Even if you do believe that, you realize that amendment has already been messed with, right? Felons are prohibited from owning firearms. So yes, clearly this amendment does not mean that gun regulations are illegal by the Federal government.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
If Healthcare, minimum wage,and business practices were problematic under the 10th amendment, then people would have brought it up and fought it already, right? But, Health care is here, businesses not being allowed to discriminate against peoples race or culture are here, and we have minimum wage laws. I have not heard anything about judges declaring any of them a breach of the 10th amendment.
26% of Americans actively supports their state seceding from the union now (Reuters, 2016), and even higher in the south and the rockies. This is greater than the 19% of Americans who trust their government (Pew, 2015). You accuse me of living in a different reality but actually my view of distrust of the federal government is overwhelmingly mainstream, and identifying with your state first is not uncommon.
Right, so 74% of Americans aren’t for it, and active support was ‘they told the person taking the poll they would be good with seceding.’ Mind you, that brings up good questions on where the poll was done, but I’ll just go with the ‘statistically, you can prove or disprove anything with statistics’ line as you used the ‘cold dead hands’ one earlier.
You should also know that Ipos/Reuter surveys are mainly online polls, many of which only have a little over a thousand participants. Heck, they even had Hillary Clinton polled as winning the election.
But you’re right on one point, it’s not north vs south any more:
That…is actually a map of Republicans and Democrats, nothing to do with what we are talking about. That or you are showing me a map of red being the least populated places in America, and blue being where the majority of people live.
I’m assuming you aren’t republican, considering you don’t like big government and say you dislike big business, so I really don’t get why you would bring up a map like that to try to prove a point. Especially considering a great deal of republicans aren’t from any of the states you like to call ‘southern’. Much like a great deal of democrats aren’t ‘northern’.
It is amusing to me as I go through and find new things, how the Rebel flag only gained real popularity in the late 1940’s when the “Dixiecrats” came into existence to oppose Civil Rights for black Americans.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150626-confederate-flag-civil-rights-movement-war-history/
I’m pretty doubtful that National Geographic has an agenda to make the ‘South’ look bad, so yeah.
