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@Pagan  
“You can literally find the spell to do that in a public library”  
What? The canterlot castle library isn’t public, hence Twilight trying to sneak in. She was allowed in easily because she is one of the clostest friends/students of the ruler of the world.
 
“why are you acting impressed?”  
Because she did a thing that only, i quote twilight “the greatest wizard ever” was able to do, and enhanced that spell IMMENSELY.
 
“All she did was go further back in time but the ability to just travel through time is apparently common knowledge.”  
It’s not, not at all, why do you think so? It’s only in ponyvile because twilight told them about it.
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@LuminoZero  
Yet in the episode where Twilight does it it’s played off as something any skilled unicorn can do Sunburst has been shown to be knowledgeable of magic but not a very good caster Starlight is a Twilight expy (for no apparent reason) who is overly gifted hence why she was able to extend the spell but for the most part time travel is common knowledge and can be cast by other unicorns.
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@Pagan
 
As Sunburst proves, reading magic and casting it are two very different things.
 
-Lumino
Pagan

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You can literally find the spell to do that in a public library, why are you acting impressed? All she did was go further back in time but the ability to just travel through time is apparently common knowledge.
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@DAPLR
 
Bulllllllllshit.
 
The logic of your argument is so flawed that I can’t even see straight. By your logic, if you parked your car in front of your house instead of on the side like you usually do, and somebody hit your car and died, it’s your fault.
 
You had no idea parking there would cause this, but ignorance isn’t an excuse, right?
 
Also, you’re arguing this on a topic of CHAOS THEORY (which is exactly what S5 Finale was). By typing this message, you have destroyed a world where you didn’t type that message. All of those people, gone forever. You horrible murderer.
 
Do you understand how positively ridiculous you sound right now?
 
-Lumino
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@Starswirl  
No. In fact in the times where Starlight was being sneaky or emotional her voice sounds just like it did before. The voice and tone didn’t change, it’s just that’s starlight doesn’t have her usual bravado so naturally her inflections are also different. That how I see it.
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Well, I want to ask something here. I’m not looking to step on anypony’s hoof here, mind, and it’s not really meant as criticism as such, but…
 
Did you have some trouble bringing the two versions of Starlight Glimmer together, like I did? Her voice and her tone in particular. I didn’t have that problem with Sunset Shimmer. But perhaps it’s a matter of more time. Luna ended up sounding a lot like Nightmare Moon too, after she’d gotten more spotlight.
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@DAPLR  
Ignorance is completely valid excuse, if the action they did had no logical assumptions to be bad, which Starlights actions did not. How could she have known destroying a friendship would result in the end of the world? For all she knew, the elements of harmony(who btw. are not called elements of friendship or twilights element is not called element of friendship or anything like that) would have been found either way to defeat the big villains from the past 2 years.
 
Also since the timelimes got erased, it isn’t like they got killed, they simply never existed to begin with, even if twilight visited them. That is how time travel works.
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@LuminoZero  
Ignorance is NOT a excuse or even softener of evil deeds. Remember that every single creature (well, most at least) in the world had to live a life of pain and suffering for years multiple times because of her, and when that timeline was left, it’s possible it got erased, killing them.
 
My problem with Starlight is that her evil deeds are only acknowledged by herself. No one cares at ALL that she did evil things. You could say ponies are far more forgiving, but even the Mane 6 are usually more cautious against former villains.
 
Without the external judgement, we ignore a huge aspect of the journey for redemption. Starlight did possibly the most horrible thing in the show, but a simple sorry is all she has to do and no one will ever care about what she?
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@LuminoZero  
Actually, the whole universe destroying bit can be blamed on both Starlight and Twilight, because they both concluded the spell and collapsed all those Timelines. Which could count as genocide by some interpretations.
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@LuminoZero  
I agree with you.
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I feel like people give Starlight WAY too much shit. Yes, everything in her Cutie Marxism phase was bad and all her fault etc.
 
The timeline stuff? Ehhhhh… Now yes, she put the world at tremendous risk for a petty and inconsequential reason, that is absolutely true. But remember her trip to the Wasteland Future? She didn’t know what the future was without Twilight’s friends. When Twilight showed her the end result of Starlight’s interference, then she lashed out, much like an emotional person will do if they come face to face with undeniable proof that everything they have been working towards is wrong.
 
However, Starlight had enough logical sense at this point to not completely ignore Twilight. She didn’t want to see the world destroyed, she thought she was doing the best thing for it. She could threaten to destroy the spell, but I don’t think she actually would have done it. She did it nice and slow, when she could have vaporized it in an instant.
 
That’s why she could be redeemed. Yes, she did horrible things. Things that she needed to atone for, but being a malicious, universe destroying monster was not one of them.
 
-Lumino
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@Trahzo  
If that’s the case, then he must have a scene with Angel Bunny (who is easily the G4 version of the Moochick’s assistant).
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This guy is a total magic theory nerd, and that’s why I love him.
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I don’t see how this is surprising. Think about it, Sunburst might be one of the vanishingly few ponies who truly understand the fundamentals of such a feat. Of course he’d be impressed to the point of being shocked.
 
And the evil stuff… Starlight already mentioned she’s Princess Twilight’s pupil now, so whatever that was is likely in the past and not relevant anymore.
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@KirbyMark  
“Almost destroyed Equestria” happened quite a bit more often than time travel as far as he knew.
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@brony-in-denial
Starlight travelled through time. Not for five minutes. Not one week into the past. She travelled through time and changed history.
BY FINISHING A SPELL STARSWIRL THE BEARDED LEFT INCOMPLETE
Twilight Sparkle is a moron.
 
How does that make Twilight a moron? She outright said in a earlier episode that she now knew better than to mess with time travel.
 
And Starlight didn’t “finish” the spell, at least according to the episode. She altered it and used the map to enhance it. Which this episode expounded on, her using existing spells and then giving them bigger effects. As she put it the hard part (actually making the existing spell) was already done for her by Starswirl.
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@shinjojin  
Huh, i would think breaking the laws of physics doing something no one has ever come even close to achieve before in all of mankinds(uh, ponykinds) history would cause more of a reaction than a “I’d be VERY surprised as well, but…”
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@Kibate  
Oh I’d be VERY surprised as well, don’t get me wrong. It’s just that I wouldn’t let that cause me to disregard all the other crazy things he/she said she/he did, especially if they were BAD things.
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@shinjojin  
Are you seriously telling me, if you met a TIME TRAVELER who happened to be a bad guy once but seems alright now, you would be surprised about anything but the fact that there is a TIME TRAVELER in front of you?
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@brony-in-denial  
Starlight travelled through time. Not for five minutes. Not one week into the past. She travelled through time and changed history.
 
BY FINISHING A SPELL STARSWIRL THE BEARDED LEFT INCOMPLETE
 
Twilight Sparkle is a moron.
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@Trahzo  
That’s honestly what I thought when we saw his house. I like he has different idea of advance magic, he knows magic but isn’t magically gifted. I picked that up in Starlight’s Flashback he’d show her a spell but she’d perform to an insanely powerful degree.
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@Background Human  
They’re made for eachother.
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@shinjojin  
Starlight traveled through time. That’s probably far more impressive than anything Sunburst has done in his life.
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