Policy update regarding AI content

Geljado
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Could not find any info about the following, and dunno if I just missed it, or if there is a page explaing it in more detail.
But my question is as follows:
When the delition happens, will the alter the nightly data-base dump?
To further specify, when DB deletes an image post, because dublicate or TOS reasons or anything else,
are the ID, ratings (score, etc) and tags removed? Or are the data points kept around?
Is this delition handeled diffrently from others db wise?
I ask since I wanted to take still a peek about the behaviour on taging, score, comments, etc - While the data still is not split (or removed) from the current set.
Thank you for an answer in advance.
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Ciaran
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Senior Moderator
君場森生きる
Would these be protected under the new category of AI-composition?
I’m sorry, I don’t know. Also I’m trying to avoid deciding things like that by myself. Whenever I’m asked this question I take the example to the rest of staff and ask for a discussion/vote. So, I don’t feel it’s appropriate for me to unilaterally say. If you have something that you’d like to have reviewed, please come to our Discord support channel and ask there so that everyone who would like to look at your works will be able to.
@Background Pony #B744
This site tries (as much as it can) to use rules and guidelines, and team consensus when reviewing images. And we are trying to make sure that no image, question for staff, or report has to wait for more than a couple hours before someone on staff can respond to it.
With our system, we’re averaging on average 3 hour(s) between a report being made or an image being uploaded and held in the approval queue and it being resolved.
The ‘if people upvote it then it’s ok to host’ process that you’re describing is an entirely different model, and I can’t imagine how it would work with this site, or this team.
We’re an international team of volunteers, all of whom have lives off of this site and only come here in our spare time to help the site. So to get 10 of us to vote on one thing can take 2 or 3 days.
What you’re suggesting would put everything everyone uploads here using AI in a queue where half of the volunteer team would have to approve the image before it would appear on the site. Which means it would go from being (on average) 3 hours for the image to be acted on, based on 1 person working based on rules and guidelines whose work is then later audited by others, to half of our team having to approve each and every image, pushing the wait time from uploading to appearing on the site to possibly as much as 2 or 3 days.
I don’t see how that would work.
And it doesn’t seem fair to uploaders and artists who have proven themselves trustworthy.
It might be interesting to create your own site though to try that. Maybe you could make it work if you had required or mandatory attendance from your team.
When the delition happens, will the alter the nightly data-base dump?
Is this delition handeled diffrently from others db wise?
I haven’t heard of any changes being made to the nightly database dump to special case ai generated images. So it should work the same after the deletion is complete as it works today.
Ciaran
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君場森生きる
So delete images still have their tags and scores preserved in the db?
I don’t know. You will have to look. All I know is the way the nightly dump is created is unlikely to change, and I’m not aware of any plans to ‘special case’ ai generated images in the dumps.
Personally, I’d be surprised if detailed information on deleted images were preserved in the dumps. A lot of the images we delete are deleted for violating rules, and sometimes even laws, and that can happen in descriptions and in tags, so I don’t know why we would preserve that data and expose it in a data dump.
There’s stuff we delete that is so illegal it would be a crime for us to show to the police as a part of reporting the uploader to authorities. So why would we create a nightly dump that includes it?
You could probably do a quick test by grabbing the data for a single deleted image using the API. >>3508642 (deleted) is the most recent image that’s been deleted, and none of the data on it was illegal, so you could just grab it via the API and that will show you what you might find in the dump.
If someone working with the dumps knows, it would be nice if they would weigh in.
Geljado
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@Ciaran
That’s all I needed to know, thank you c:
In other words, I’mma download a dump now, since the information would be gone then.
You could probably do a quick test by grabbing the data for a single deleted image using the API. >>3508642 (deleted) is the most recent image that’s been deleted, and none of the data on it was illegal, so you could just grab it via the API and that will show you what you might find in the dump.
If someone working with the dumps knows, it would be nice if they would weigh in.
Good idea, thanks.
batwingcandlewaxxe
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That’s good to hear. It’s very heartening to see more people pushing back against low-effort AI slop and art theft. I know the pseudo-artists won’t be happy about being shunted off to their own platform, so hopefully you won’t have to deal with too much nastiness as a result.
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FlatterDeN

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@Quakehoof
Чему ты там блять радуешься? У самого то контент обосраться какой “Правильный” Единственная внятная причина этих поправок, это перегруз модераторов, остальное мусор. AI контент и так подвергался жесткому отбору, и всяческим ограничениям.
Проблема AI как рас в том, что такие как ты его не правильно воспринимают, вы видите мусор созданный AI, игнорируя горы мусора созданные простыми художниками “С которым никто не будет разбираться, либо как то ограничивать” То же самое можно сказать и про SFM, где порок качества и вовсе ниже плинтуса, где создание одного постера “Уродского качества” займёт столько же времени, как и генерация “Нормального качества” изображения AI. А про скорость с какой можно нарисовать черно-белый выкидыш в SAI я вообще молчу.
Так же мы не рассматриваем как проблему тот факт, что DB используется очень часто у реально “Крутых художников” как склад для своих работ “Естественно в низком качестве” Либо бесконечные YCH изображения, которые иногда просто заполняют страницу в 50 слотов, НЕТ! ЭТО НЕ СПАМ! Это мерзко, и никому до этого не будет дела… Все заняты с борьбой против AI контента, у которого и так было ограничение на 2 изображения за день.
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@FlatterDeN
Well yeah, because you’re throwing a fit, insulting people, and wishing eternal damnation on them. It’s a pretty low bar to miss but your background pony friend is certainly jumping for the stars.
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Polo fastter
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People know bad art and don’t like it. Also, I want to know if a hand of man is behind the art instead of a machine taking around twenty seconds to make something.
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@FlatterDeN
Where you, and some others in this thread, are ‘wrong’ is you have been insulting others and seem to be looking for a fight. If you can’t discuss this civilly, please take a break.
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Ciaran
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Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
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Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
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君場森生きる
@FlatterDeN
Your report has not been ignored. Staff is discussing it. We’ll make a decision soon. In the meantime, please take some advice from Malcolm Reynolds and keep a civil tongue. If in doubt, ask yourself; What would captain tight pants do?
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Asder-T76
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@Quakehoof
Проблема AI как рас в том, что такие как ты его не правильно воспринимают, вы видите мусор созданный AI, игнорируя горы мусора созданные простыми художниками “С которым никто не будет разбираться, либо как то ограничивать” То же самое можно сказать и про SFM
Ты и сам загрузил сюда работу в стиле SFM. Стоит задуматься.
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