Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@Dustcan
HAsn’t it been proven before in the past (multiple times) that the amount of money/time/effort/ect to combat and deport illegal immigrants vastly outweighs how much it would take to just help give them legal status?
Background Pony #1F81
Like fuck, where was this kind of energy previously?
As many have pointed out before, the Dems are allergic to victory and them and a lot of news media always try to take the “high ground” no matter how much of a one-hit KO slam dunk they have
Like every other time they rightfully bring up how hate filled Trump and his supporters are and how they will do irreversible damage towards America if they get into power, yet as soon as the actual election season starts they just go “Eehhh, he’s not THAT bad…”
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Time and again, yes.
Like, just off the top of my head was DeSantis’ human trafficking stunt a couple years back. The one where he sent like 50 migrants to Martha’s Vineyard in a PR stunt. The entire thing cost like $12 million from Florida taxes alone, plus whatever expenses the residents/authorities of Massachusetts had to incur to handle them.
$12 million minimum for 50 people. That’s $240k per person. You legit could’ve just given them that money, and it would’ve been an investment as the money spend gets circulated through the community, as well as seeing some of it return off the taxes from them spending it. Instead DeSantis blew a $12 million hole into Florida’s budget just to kick off a failed run for president. Shit, does anyone here or do any of the lurkers reading this make $240k a year? Yeah, let that sink in for a moment.
As another example, a few years back it cost an average of like $80 to spend a night in jail. Not counting other expenses like labor or resources from the police, just like $80 to house and feed an arrestee. Well jailing the homeless for vagrancy is a popular way to deal with said homeless. What’s the point here? Looking at hotels in my area today, after years of inflation, an average room also costs $80 now. Motels in my area go anywhere from $20 to $60 a night.
It would legit be cheaper to just pay for an apartment for every homeless person than to arrest them, but instead we spend more for less results.
Yes our systems are so ass backwards that it is legit cheaper to just give money away than to keep going as we currently are.
CaptainXtra
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Interesting how Cuban American’s tend to lean Right but Folks back on the Old Island know Fascism when they see it:

Cuban Deputy Minister criticizes the radical shift in U.S. policy, comparing Trump’s strategy to Hitler’s fascist regime due to its emphasis on force.
Deputy Minister Carlos F. de Cossío compared Trump to Hitler for adopting a foreign policy based on the “promotion of peace through strength.” Cossío argued that, like Hitler, Trump uses war as a means to achieve his objectives, in this case, reversing measures that directly affect Cuba, such as its reclassification as a state sponsor of terrorism.

Commies and Socialists are good at spotting actual Nazis so that shouldn’t surprise anyone.
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I’m not sure you can exactly blame them when the entire reich-wing media sphere is running 24/7 propaganda.
Like, you just escaped a communist regime. You make it to America. You don’t spend all your time reading or watching every news channel/outlet, most of your time is spent working to make a living and then spending your free time enjoying that living. Statistically speaking the one source of news you indulge in is likely Fox News, who’s constantly smearing the middle right neoliberal opposition party as “Communist”. This is your only frame of reference for said half of the American two party system, so you of course favor the other half.
Can you really blame them for having an incorrect view of a party that doesn’t even try and debunk the slander against them?
StrangeKittenoftheFabulousKilljoys

It’s a multi-faceted problem. It’s not just Fox News, but a lot of content creators on the right-wing grift as well. I had hoped that we were at a point where the Boomers were low enough in numbers that we wouldn’t have to worry so much about Trump winning. The loss taught me that content creators are in on the grift, and enough of them to influence the younger generations.
And work is a huge factor here, too. Not just for Cuban-Americans but for everyone. Keeping oneself educated and informed takes time, and with minimum wage staggeringly low, people don’t have a lot of time. I just listened to someone tell an anecdote about how her friend’s husband voted for Trump because inflation was bad. That means he barely got much info on the candidates besides Trump = lower inflation. It used to be people had time to grab a beer and catch a lot of the news after work. Nowadays, not so much.
Like @Background Pony #205A said, however, they do indeed need to wake up from the delusion. That’s why there’s a big part of me that feels like all this awfulness might turn out for the better further down the road. The chaos and explosiveness may indeed need to be this loud for enough people to start getting informed.
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I know it’s early to ask this, but who do you guys think will take the helm on the Democratic side, to take down the MAGA Fascists in 2028?
Because I do not think that it will be Kamala Harris. As matter of fact after her major loss, MAGA Fascists is begging her to run again. I personally do not want her to make another run.
Background Pony #FCA7
Oh no. She did ran a very good campaign, I am not saying that she didn’t. It’s just that after her major loss, the states like Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are not going to vote for her again. Not even the battleground states like North Carolina, and Georgia. She might even lose in her home state California. She should not run again because I fear that it could be even worse than her 2024 campaign. I know she would have enough time than her 2024 campaign to run, but after that I do not know. J.D. Vance or Trump (If they have the guts to change the constitution) are going to win again.
Background Pony #FCA7
In a way yes you are given the current political climate. Jimmy Carter could have ran again back than, but he didn’t. I think he knew what the outcome was going to be if he were to run again. If Harris should stay into politics, her running for Governor in California in 2026 is the best way to go not the presidency. I know what you’re going to say about Trump he list in 2020, but won again in 2024 because he spoke out against the bullshit lies that he is going to do. I hate to give the man credit, but he did exactly that and won. Something that Harris failed miserably on.
CaptainXtra
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I’m not giving up.
A rare glimpse of Right Wingers actually opposing the idea of their “Orange King” having even more power than he already does instead of dismissing the notion as a joke to “own the libs”:
Yeah, isn’t that a mind screw when talking about folks who have 0 issues with a president pardoning capitol rioters and deporting innocents.
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I mean, the “breaking point” means nothing if they don’t try to stop him. Again, I pray things will end well, but I’m also cynical about people complaining but still enabling bad things to happen. Action speaks louder than words, and inaction is deafening.
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Columbia rejected 2 deportation flights from America, because it turns out other countries have their own sovereignty.
In response Trump whimpered out a declaration that he will slap 25-50% tariffs on all their goods.
What a weak man.
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Middle TN communities blindsided by corporations shutting down plants, distribution centers: https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/communities-blindsided-job-loss/
Biden helped put the plants there, republicans get what they voted for. Guess who gets the blame? HINT: “WHY WOULD THE LIBERALS DO THIS?!”
They’re getting exactly what they voted for, they are “WINNING!!!!”
And we all have to drink their soup bowl of piss -.-*
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@BlueYoshi
First Elon, then that one congresswoman from Tenesse, now Bannon…
There sure are a lot of “coincidences” of the totally not a nazi party engaging in a lot of Nazi shit…
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