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Oh Sombra. . . What did they do to you?
welp i just spent 20 minutes adding tags, rip.
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U bring up some good points on how to look at it
Chuckle
So remove him
Nah, bro(ny), you’re kinda right
Being failed doesn’t stop her from being a good pony maybe just not the best leader ever.
Don’t see the problem with that. She means well, yes, but whether her well-meaning plans work is a different story altogether.
No one take this bait please lol
Change my thoughts, I dare ya!!
That bad boy attempt was honestly a BS plot excuse as there have been no signs of it, and it doesn’t change the fact he led a group to kill babies for the kicks and is implied to have done so already in the past. Him tryna kill spike many times isnt a good excuse for i didn’t wanna look weak infront of my friends especially when he did those things not around friends. He honestly need a lot more to truly redeem himself, hes not even a interesting character or was a cool villain to make up for it.
@Kamazeustra
In a “bad boy” attempt, it was revealed in later seasons that he’s actually a softy, just refuses to admit it. Many children have killed in their youth (ants, bugs mostly. Some have killed animals and pets) it’s not unusual. It doesn’t make them bad, just wrong.
Edited
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, then
And yes.
Eris (r63 Discord) > The rest of draconequus.
reformed Discord exist, but Dubuc’s Discord never exist… and Sombra is evil no matter what season.
And Tempest done awful things meanwhile she was with Storm King.
@CORDZ2000
How i said, Dubuc’s Discord never exist.
Discord falls under nice towards the eos because starting with discordant harmony(matter of principles) aside, his goals and his actions he did ultimately to help his friends at times often in his own chaotic ways whether he was successful or not.
Y’know I thought you meant non-birb Eris and I was about to applaud you on your tastes but Discord is already on the chart and i am dumb.
I’m okay with these changes, and actually I kinda like the idea of Tempest being Civic, as she largely was just following orders. Do you really think she’s evil though?
Also a little funny apparently in your eyes reformed Discord and Season 9 Sombra literally do not exist.
I think this is more accurate at least for my knowledge. And of course, i put the female draconequus in the list.
That’s fair.
@Jacalope
Well yeah, I consider the magnitude of damage a person does to be not entirely relevant to how evil they are or more specifically, how willing they are to harm people. A baby who finds a gun and kills someone by accident isn’t evil, and a diabolically evil genius baby isn’t NOT evil merely because it is a baby and lacks the opportunity to do harm at the moment. If someone’s intentions are innocent so are they.
Starlight isn’t “innocent” but I don’t believe she can be worthy of being called evil merely because her actions lead to great harm. She’s not TRYING to be evil, she doesn’t WANT to be evil, she’s just an irresponsible asshole on a power trip who has more access to power than she knows how to handle.
She still should have gone to jail, though.
I wouldn’t say more dangerous. Ahui seems a bit more malicious and willing to act evil or do harm than OG Starlight, who was on a crazy egoistic power trip. And Garble’s a straight bully. [/bq]
But who made more damage? a single guardian or someone who broke the timeline 7 times just for revenge?
It’s like comparing Screwball with Magneto, okay, Screwball is a bad person but she just made tricks for fame and likes, nothing serious like Magneto who despiste he wants to keep the mutans save, makes a genocide.
It’s impossible not making Glimmer less evil than Ahui.
So, in resume Intention =/= action.
Edited because: extension of argument
Stern, traditional, loyal to her family/business, enforcing her rules in/of her home, “if you want to stay you got to work” “ma and pa maybe own the farm but I keep it running” Limestone Pie… does not sound very rebelious to me.
Not sure either , but I suppose I should probably respond to some of them.
@Jacalope
@Warrior_Kitten
I wouldn’t say more dangerous. Ahui seems a bit more malicious and willing to act evil or do harm than OG Starlight, who was on a crazy egoistic power trip. And Garble’s a straight bully.
@Background Pony #D58B
I view Lightning Dust as a cocky idiot who doesn’t mean to harm anyone but also doesn’t care if she does. So what MetaKnight said.
@Background Pony #1FF5
I actually agree with you. I think Celestia is just Lawful even though she actually IS the supreme authority in the land, because being wise and benevolent as she is she would understand that behaving too authoritarian would not be a beneficial thing for other people. I put her in Authoritarian anyway just because I figured people would complain a bunch if I didn’t, due to her status as an authority. But Celly’s the only character on this chart whose alignment I kinda forced a little bit.
@CORDZ2000
Yeah that’s correct. Character behavior is fluid as well as open to interpretation, so everything on the chart is “on average/generally”. Everyone has off days and a chart like this can’t reflect everything a person is capable of. I did feel a bit awkward determining these character’s moral worth, it feels insulting to those placed in Nice that they are “not good enough” but realistically people are just varying levels of good. But don’t undersell nice. Nice is nice! It’s a good thing to be nice! Those characters are just less idealistic.
@Kamazeustra
You might be right there. I guess I put him there because he causes a lot of ruckus and acts wildly, without lingering on him too much. To be fair I only saw the movie once. Although I would say just because a villain wants everyone to obey THEM doesn’t mean they have any care for authority otherwise.
@Wayneponeth
I AM Santa.
@OtherFritz
Yeah so I definitely didn’t use the best term there. Eldritch doesn’t mean evil, it means frightening and monstrous in an otherworldly way. I needed SOME word to be worse than Evil and I just felt like that sounded nice. I was gonna go with Unholy but I wanted a more exotic term that conveys being evil beyond just everyday cruelty.
@CORDZ2000
@CORDZ2000
Right again. It’s fine though you can easily argue Lightning Dust is Naughty. She hasn’t acted innocent, it depends on how you view her.
@Backgroundpony
@CORDZ2000
Storm King yeah alright maybe. What’s wrong with Limey? She does seem like kind of a rebel but, not malicious or nice in any real way.