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Is that going to be the thing now, were every new episode gets over analyzed and complained about? Jesusfuck just enjoy it!
I think the claim comes more from the fact that, anytime someone posts human ponies that aren’t white, the pic will always get comments like “Why is Twilight a nigger?” and other ignorant shit like that, and I’d wager that not all of the racists are simple trolls.
Season 2 was written before most of the staff was even aware of a fandom.
Season 3 was written before the writers really knew of a fandom.
I think there’s also a big difference between “subtle nods to a fandom”, like inclusion of a favorite background pony doing something in the background. It’s still entertaining to anyone watching the episode, but it’s a little something extra for the fans. It doesn’t take away from the experience.
And honestly, it’s going to become impossible to come up with something we haven’t heard of before, because we’ve made fanfics for almost every possible situation. Our fandom is a bit more…passionate about our love of the show, I think. We’re a highly creative bunch.
Something that Jayson Thiessen said awhile back on a Reddit AMA:
“we take the show into account. it needs to work for the show. we didnt have bronies in mind for season one.. but bronies happened. is like evolution… bronies will adapt to fit the environment.”
It seems the show will change of its own accord, and we fans will have to adjust. Not the other way around.
I’d add one thing. I think that if you focus too much on fanon in a show and not breaking it, then characters stay as well-developed as fans make them. Very few background or secondary characters have attributes that aren’t something that the show hasn’t hinted at in the first place. I feel like that makes the universe limited.
Characters would only develop as long as it didn’t break fanon. I think that would make the show stale, even with the amazing characters.
Pandering to me seems to be a waste of opportunities for them to do their own thing.
People will always, ALWAYS find a problem in something.
Though, the pandering thing seems to be less a problem, and more something that people like to politely discuss about. No rage or anything.
Personally I think that, if they do their job well, they can pander as much as they want. It only has to make sense and be enjoyable.
It’s not like the makers of the show can isolate themselves perfectly from the fandom.
And sooner or later they run out of ideas as well! D:>
I think this season has quite a lot of pandering. But I have that eerie feel, that the next season will have a completely new setting, where pandering will not be used very much.
i think they’re doing a good job.
it more than just shameful plugging.
its a casual nod to the fans
theres a diff between shameless promotion and well thought out casual eference to fan works.
i’d say this was intended as a good will thank you to their fans rather than a sorry attempt to maintain their fame.
i personally approve of it.
The problem with new episodes nowadays is: Can we make an original episode without having it look like it was taken from a fanfiction? Given the amount of fanficts written up to this day and the size of the fandom i find this quite difficult to accomplish.
Straight truth about pandering.
Pros
Cons
Everyone loved Luna before Luna eclipsed but the episode wasn’t a pander. New model, new story. Her personality was different then what the fans thought. It was fresh and funny but risky.
Magic Duel was a pander that went like clock work. Well received but nothing people didn’t expect.
Luna Eclipsed has been the bases of so much new fandom while not much new will come from Magic Duel. That is the downside.
It was a good episode, a good shout out, I loved, I hope they don’t repeat it for a few episodes. Give us new stuff to chew on, new idea’s.
People criticize and want stuff all the time. They may complain about derpy, the show itself, the dialogues, the animation, whatever you want. Now, if the artists did pay that much attention to them then there wouldn’t be any tv show.
1> It gives fans the feeling of power over things, and makes them shout louder, longer, and harder for things that for one reason or another may be impossible in the context of the show. And then rage about it when they can’t have it.
2> It plays with legal constraints. If they take too much input, the chance is that much greater that some one dirtbag will call copyright infringement or idea theft. That could go every badly any number of ways.
3> Fans often think they want something that has nothing to do with what they actually want. Changing the show for the sake of pandering could unintentionally destroy the actual underlying reasons such a large, varied body of people watch the show. And if you lose the people you were pandering to in the first place, what good has been done?
Extra: The whole dangling-a-carrot-on-a-stick fuel thing disappears when when you feed the carrot away.
Take for instance, a box of chocolates.
A taste is nice, but eat the lot and you’ll be sick.
Heck, Im not even American.
Im British actually.
Short version: Non-bronies claim that having zecora in the show makes us racist.
I had someone claiming that I was racist on the sole premise I’m a brony even though I’m only half white.
>Therefore he is a racist person
>Is he part of a fandom? {yes}/no
>Many people in the fandom say racist stuff? {yes}/no
>Therefore the FANDOM is RACIST.