@Background Pony #A9F5
Totaly. It’s not like that in good old capitalism. Everyone is treated far more fairly here, the poor don’t get more poor and don’t have to pay for the rich peoples mistakes.
You two are either high, delusional or simply stupid. It’s like the comedian Folker Pispers said:“Being allowed to travel and being able to, are two generally different things.”
You want to claim things to a specific ideology or concept? You better have prove to such claims. Cause we won’t hesitate to.
So communism and atheism are the things with immature easy popular answers? What kind of people like to say that the poor are only poor, because they don’t work hard enough? I’m fairly certain that it’s the same people who sell jobs to countries where people work for barely a few cents. They leave us with other jobs that translate to modern day slavery, by way of servant role, that isn’t paid much better. It’s also our fault for staying in said role and having been put there in the first place. We should have worked better in school, to get better jobs and the guy in the better position, despite having far worse grades is a special case. Honest. He has proven he has what it takes for the leader position and has all the qualities for the position of the manager. With other words, he is a ass kissing douche.
We can get a better position if we just prove ourselfes in the current one. We just have to work 384 extra hours a day and we can move from cleaning the toilet in a McDonalds, to cleaning the floor. That’s a big change! The manager stops taking the tips, that were given to the people cleaning the toilet, for the betterment of the restaurant. Even if it’s only 1.50€, that’s still an increase of almost 50%, in the payment. Now some other shmuck, get’s his money taken, so you are paid. Hurray! And oh look, the manager has won a regional price, for his great judgement. And with the new policy, the government has enacted, the rich can give much more jobs to the poor. If you haven’t guessed, it decreases their expenses and increases the ones of the poor. Stupid poor people never doing any work, while the manager does such helpful thing like taking their tips, playing solitair on the computer in his room and giving “attention” to his secretary. I really hate Merkel.
@Doomguy
Yeah Communism is a type of goverment where the rich get richer and the poor get more poor, do you think Joseph Stalin or any of the communist leader were starving during the time of no food? Fuck no they were eating like pigs
Communism says everyone is groovey and nothing is your fault, immature easy answers will always be popular.. answers like “fuck religion, it’s all stupid religious peoples fault”
@Ichijoe
George Carlin is a bad joke. Atheistic communism killed far more than “religion” ever did, and religion is what binds societies together. It is an agreement of common values and the best way to live. Carlin proposes a loopy doo fantasy land where everyone just “gets along.” Life and people do not work this way. They have to have an attachment to the ideas of the divine or they go nuts with despair over time.
@Painfulldarksoul
Again Mr. Carlin out that One sooo succinctly: “Hey, if you read history, you realize that God is one of the leading causes of death— has been for thousands of years. Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians, all taking turns killing each other because God told them it was a good idea. The sword of God, the blood of the lamb, vengeance is mine, millions of dead motherfuyaaay!, all because they gave the wrong answer to the God question: “Do you believe in God?” “No.” Boom! Dead. “Do you believe in God?” “Yes…” “Do you believe in my God?” “No.” Boom! Dead. “My god has a bigger dick than your god!”
@Doomguy
Respecting each other and viewing anyone outside as pitiable at best and subhuman at worst. That one is much closer to how religion works.
And oh look, aparantly it’s retarded to reject a given definition. I’ll keep that in mind, in case someone considers me a pink fairy with a rack heavier than the moon, despite me clearly being male and looking more like a member of our next closest related species.
The natural order you are speaking about, is called science. It’s derived from cold facts, by way of logic. You know, the thing that made your god unnecessary for the universe. Since you consider it so narrow minded, you might want to aproach it more liberal. Start with math, it’s the one everything is based on. Based on your words, it’s okay to guess ten plus four as seven.
I’m assuming you’re accepting a christian definition of God, and then railing against god based on someone elses reasoning. Paradoxical.
Also insisting on “facts” is quite naive as the point of metaphyics/philosophy/religion is that it doesn’t deal in facts, it deals in often axiomatic reasoning and human truth - not stuff derived from data analysis. It is impossible to build a case against religion without failing to address religious argument, because all atheism has going for it is an extremely narrow materialist viewpoint. Even evolutionists concede some type of emergent and inherent natural order, that things “should” be a certain way.
Atheism of the “hur dur fuck god” variety is just flat out retarded because, like I said, it’s based on a rejection of a definition that was given to you. It’s an entirely negative pattern of belief. I do not believe in monotheistic dualism, but I don’t have it in for monotheistic dualism, because I’m a gosh-darned grown up. This is why internet atheism is a laughing stock, because the hostility towards monotheistic (christian normally) dualism is not motivated by a desire to develop as a person, but teenage angst of the “fuck you mom” variety. It’s a case of refusing to see the forest for the trees. Religion is bad because god is an INCOMPETENT BUFFOON, even though it creates a social space and community based on mutual respect!
Anyway, sunset shimmer is not an atheist, but an evil pagan. Praise the sun
@Doomguy
You want real hostility, you come to me. Although in my case I don’t have so much vitriol for religion as I do for the incompetent buffoon it worships. I do not so much dislike religion so much as I dislike God.
Also, it’s worth noting that Mr. Fry, and by extension Mr. Russell, has more evidence for his standpoint than “de warm fuzzies.” You can believe whatever you want, but if it comes to actually debating the facts it’s good to bring your most solid, bulletproof arguments with it.
@TheAbridgenator
Oh. Right. My mistake. From the description, I thought she was talking about the horse with a sun on her butt, not the sun itself. In that case, good luck getting it through the mirror in the first place.
@TheAbridgenator So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he’s at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn’t give a shit. Doesn’t give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.
