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@Bronitarian  
“Locking ponies underground to starve to death/torment until dead.”  
Assuming death would ever happen in the show.
 
“Singing songs about how much she likes to lie and hurt people.”  
I’m not sure you know what psychotic means.
 
“Completely taking another persons life and identity instead of making one up to seduce people with. Doing a hostile take over instead of covert feeding.”  
I’m not sure you know what deranged means.
 
“Her treatment of Cadance seemed pretty vengeful to me, orchestrating it so twilight would either kill or beat mercilessly her already helpless prisoner.”  
Once again, assuming death would ever happen in the show. Also assuming Chrysalis intended Twilight to find Cadance.
 
And once again, we know she’s evil. The comics just take it up to an extreme. What part of that aren’t you getting?
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@Bronitarian
And did you listen to her when she said “as queen of the changelings, it is up to me to find food for my subjects”?
I think you misunderstand. We know from the show she was manipulative and power-hungry. But the comics added murderous, psychotic, deranged, and vengeful to a fault to that list.
You seriously cannot deny that’s a big jump.
 
Murderous: Locking ponies underground to starve to death/torment until dead.  
Psychotic: Singing songs about how much she likes to lie and hurt people.  
Deranged: Completely taking another persons life and identity instead of making one up to seduce people with. Doing a hostile take over instead of covert feeding.  
Vengeful: Her treatment of Cadance seemed pretty vengeful to me, orchestrating it so twilight would either kill or beat mercilessly her already helpless prisoner.
 
Every tinpot dictator and self-styled freedom fighter has pulled the “I’m doing this for my people” line, usually before they fill another mass grave of innocent civilians.
 
Face it, she’s evil. She likes to hurt people, and see them in fear of her. She’s a sadist and that’s enough to remove her credibility as a desperate leader looking to relieve her peoples suffering.
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@Mr. Horrible
What’s interesting to me is that she’s doing what she does to sustain her race, meaning she’s not trying out for power or glory, but for survival, which is far different from, say, Tirek or Sombra (Sirens… eh maybe).
 
Actually after Sombra’s issue you can count him as someone fighting for his people now too
 
As I’ve said elsewhere on this site he’s basically TF Animated version Megatron now
 
Both guys who’s people are inherently evil and were beaten by the good guys
 
In the Decepticons’ case banished from their homeworld
 
In the Shadow Ponies’ case sealed underground
 
Now you have two guys who are seen as ruthless dictators but to themselves they’re noble freedom fighters work towards the liberation of their oppressed kind
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@Bronitarian  
And did you listen to her when she said “as queen of the changelings, it is up to me to find food for my subjects”?  
I think you misunderstand. We know from the show she was manipulative and power-hungry. But the comics added murderous, psychotic, deranged, and vengeful to a fault to that list.  
You seriously cannot deny that’s a big jump.
Bronitarian

@soundtea
 
@Masem
 
Have neither of you actually listened to the lyrics of This Day Aria? The song that pretty much spells out Chryaslis’s character. Or even just the reprise?
 
There’s no “I’m doing this to survive” scenario here. She’s doing this cause she wants to control every pony, a dream she’s had since she was a child.
Bronitarian

@Red-Supernova
 
Oh, I must have missed that part where they reasoned Sombra into blowing up, or politely asked Tirek to get the hell back to hell.
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@Ardashir  
I can actually imagine Twilight looking at Nightmare Moon/Discord/Sombra and how they all broke free after 1000 years and coming to the wrong conclusion that that’s actually just the standardized sentence length for major offenders.
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I’d sooner square-dance with Discord.
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@PonyPon  
All the same, just be nice to Twilight.
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@Joshua  
Oh, I’d like to see her try.
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@PonyPon  
You be nice to the Princess of Friendship, mister. She CAN send you to prison, you know.
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So, imprisoned for a thousand years. Makes me wonder if there are only two punishments in the Equestrian legal system. “Either we all become friends, or you’re looking at 1000 years of hard time. Wanna sit down and have a tea party?”
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@Background Pony #0501  
Well, this is what I feel this issue might address talking about these earlier events. Maybe initially she tries to live in harmony with the ponies, but a flaw of her character (she is a bit vain, after all) lead to this being impossible.
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@Masem  
So pretty much the only reason for us to cheer for the ponies over the changelings is that they’re cuter?
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@Background Pony #0501  
Power and territory if only to maintaining the whelped ponies as “livestock”, as it were, for the Changelings. Not power just to be all-powerful for no other reason (ala Tirek).
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@Masem  
No chance she was in it for power and territory?
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@Mr. Horrible  
What’s interesting to me is that she’s doing what she does to sustain her race, meaning she’s not trying out for power or glory, but for survival, which is far different from, say, Tirek or Sombra (Sirens… eh maybe).
 
What this alludes to in this story, I hope, is maybe how she attempted to assure the Changeling’s survival in the past in a more cooperative manner with ponies and failed to do so, hence why her actions in Canterlot was “screw you ponies, we need to survive” with zero diplomacy.
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@Mr. Horrible  
Still, she never went full omnicidal crazy in the show from what we’ve seen of her.
 
I’m of the belief that a villain should be evil, but they should also have a good reason why they do what they do (Chrysalis in show needing a food source for her race). Not going into full KILL EVERYTHING mode. It helps to balance them out a bit.
 
It’s why I like Starlight Glimmer so much. Yes she’s doing some pretty morally questionable things, but she also seems to have a genuine desire for her weird version of equality.
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@soundtea  
In the show she kidnapped Cadance and left her trapped in a cave to starve to death, and invaded Equestria with the intent of turning its entire population into food for her subjects. Even if she didn’t outright kill ponies, best case scenario they’re looking at a vampire blood farm scenario.
 
She’s always been a monster, and that’s why I like her.
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@Mr. Horrible  
That’s if you take the first issue as law. Going by show alone, she’s evil, but has a good plan and wasn’t a total maniacal tool. It’s like they ratcheted her EVIL meter to 11 after that.
 
And no, I dont think of her as a misunderstood good soul, but I also dont think of her as someone that would do pogroms without hesitation.
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@Magic Man  
Need I remind you that the comic’s position is doubious at best? It’s kind of hard to take the comics as in line with the show when there seems to be no attempt to reign in the writers and make sure the whole series is kept roughly cohesive.
 
Sure, it may result in some out of nowhere hits, but for the most part you get a jumbled mess comic to comic, each writer having a wildly different interpretation of the same pony.
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@Magic Man  
THANK YOU.
 
Chrysalis is an unapologetically evil, soul-draining, genocidal monster. People seem to forget that because of all the fan art pretending she’s just some lonely little cherub who only ever wanted a hug.
Magic Man

@PonyPon
 
Um, why?
 
Need I direct you to my earlier comment? This isn’t woobie fanfic Chrysalis, this is evil, blood-thirsty war criminal CANON Chrysalis. This isn’t the misunderstood victim countless fanfics have warped her into, this is the mare who tried to take over Equestria twice, kidnapped a Princess and then three fillies, committed GENOCIDE of the cat people and is all around EVIL. This is the kind of person you NEED to incarcerate or incapacitate so she doesn’t threaten anypony else!
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Twilight, please.
 
Don’t make me hate you more.
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@Red-Supernova
 
They do that when it’s possible. But not everyone can be reasoned with. Tirek and Sombra, for example.