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I don’t know about an F-4, but an F-117 definitely could, With guns only.
 
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I even heard people saying, and I don’t mean arguing, that the F-4 could take down the F-22 because… penguins.
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For the first mass-produced stealth plane it did it’s job well enough.
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Actually, I probably shouldn’t be surprised.
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If you really want to make an argument AGAINST diagonal fins, then yes, keep bringing up F-117 and its flying capabilities.
 
In no small parts thanks to its diagonal fins, F-117 as a plane performs about as well as the ketchupbot at dispensing ketchup:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WX58CZwyiU
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You’ll be surprised.
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I didn’t know there was such a thing as plane snobs…
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But it can fly.
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@Macharius  
Don’t post F-117 as example of airplane. F-117 is a scale model of a granite boulder that by some miracle can fly. This lawnmower is better at being an airplane than F-117.  
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F-22 is an honest airplane but it has a fully functional pair of horizontal elevators. Plus developing it cost 66 billions. Likely providing smart avionics to handle diagonal rudders was not insignificant part of that.
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@Macharius  
I think he meant the tailerons, but yeah, it’s not unrealistic at all.
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@RandomBlank  
Yeah, those diagonal fins are completely unrealistic!
 
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Depends on how big he is at the moment. If he’s as tall as, say, Sears…I mean, Willis Tower in Chicago, she’s got time to turn. If more like a house, She’d better grab the ejection handle.
 
…would turn the entire plane into an unguided missile…
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Well, obviously it’s Equestrian-made model. These diagonal fins would be a bitch to make steering respond in any deterministic manner (four diagonal flaps instead of rudder and elevators - require some fancy transmission to make it e.g. turn without banking while maintaining pitch) but that’s nothing impossible, just more complex to drive than in common planes.
 
What I’d be more concerned about is there’s no way in hell she’d dodge collision right now. There’s just no way the plane could turn fast enough on such a short distance, and unless Tirek ducks at supersonic speed, it will crash right into his mug.
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Well, I think a Su-37 or 35S would be a better example than a Su-34, but regardless.  
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It’s beautiful.
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It’s aesthetically fine, it just looks odd because it’s adding features from newer generations onto older ones, where you don’t expect them. They’re perfectly serviceable, even useful, or even better than their predecessors.
 
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Cipher, you say?
 
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Well, I think it looks fucking awesome.  
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Doesn’t excuse it’s status as an abomination.  
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No. Jet Twilight. Every day until you like it.
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Can we get a new feature now, pretty please?
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Does anyone pay attention to what I write?
 
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What the fuck is that abomination? Looks like an F-22 had rough sex with a F/A-18.
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