VengefulInfinity

@Background Pony  
Plot-Induced Stupidity (PIS) and Character-Induced Stupidity (CIS) are off in matches like these unless stated otherwise which means Discord won’t be messing around and will go straight for the kill.
 
Also, the GoWverse is merely an adaptation of the original Greek myths. The GoWverse is NOT as powerful as the original myths. Nowhere near as powerful as the original myths (which are universal__) while GoW here is city-level__.
 
Kratos vs. Discord
 
Note the huge difference in power.
Master Fox

@Background Pony  
That’s the whole point of the argument though. You sayd he would not be able to Kill/defeat him. It’s a death battle. Winner survives. Loser is killed.
Background Pony #63AC
@Master Fox  
Discord is more powerful in magic, but part of his advantage is gone because of his overconfidence. Probably even then, Kratos would not be able to kill/defeat him, but still would be a good fight to watch.
Master Fox

Ok, in the god of war story maybe Gaia isn’t as powerful as the real Greek mythos. She is the earth itself in the Greek Myth. Not possible to be killed and on many times she worked with the titans and the gods.  
So yea based on god of war. Kratos “killed” gaia yet that would still mean something else is wrong. That still leaves out one major problem with the fight.  
Discord can change the rules of reality at his will. He is still far more powerful then Kratos is. He can only be stopped by Harmonious magics. Kratos is essentially just a brawler.
Background Pony #17C2
@Master Fox  
According to GoW: Ascension there was a war between the Primordials wich resulted in both the creation of the world and the birth of the Furies. It is implied that the ones seen in the GoW saga (Gaia, Thanatos…)are the ones that survived that war, therefore the others are “dead”.
 
Also, it is important to notice, in the cinematic talking about that war, the rests of the fallen deities became parts of the landscape (the ones shown became the sea, mountains and the sky,although I don’t really know how does that work with the whole castration of Ouranus if he is dead.).
 
I’m not sure how Gaia’s death would affect the world in the future. But as far as the canon goes is that she “desintegrates” destroying a great part (if not all) of Olympus during the process. Anyways, the world was very damaged by the end of the saga, even with Hope given to humans, a exploding world would be a way to euthanase it.
 
With Thanatos the case is different, he is mentioned to have become “Death,the destroyer of worlds”, which is both a reference to Oppenheimer and foreshadowing what would happen in the next 2 games.
Master Fox

@Background Pony  
So essentially, Kratos destroys the earth in his revenge. He’s suicidal apparently cause no one kills Gaia without suffering the consequences down the line. Now if that did not ultimately destroy the world then no she’s not dead for good. That’s how things work. She’s the Earth itself not some walking titan. She’s beyond the titans. That’s like saying Kratos could kill Uranus, who was the sky and heavens.
 
So Krato’s world is set to explode like Namek was in DBZ. Good going Freeza wannabe.
Background Pony #E00F
@Master Fox  
Kratos did kill two of the Primordials. Gaia and Thanatos (the latter isn’t exactly a Primordial, but curiously enough he is one of Chaos’ grandsons).
Background Pony #7ED3
kratos won
Kiryu2012

Whoa, I’m surprised so many people are debating about this fight. Now why can’t we do the same with Discord vs Bobobo?
 
Now, there have been a lot of good points regarding Discord’s capabilities, many of which I’ve never even thought of. So I’d honestly have to agree that Discord is above Greek God level power, and thus would be freakishly powerful compared to Kratos or anyone in the GOW series for that matter. I honestly think someone like Asura or Bobobo(mainly this guy of course) could stand a better chance against Discord.
Master Fox

Discord is more powerful then the whole of the Greek Pantheon alone. There is not one omnipotent god in the Greek Pantheon.
 
The fates powers lied in different skills. Clotho created the thread of life for every being. Lachesis measured the length every one’s life will be. Atropos cut the thread of life choosing one’s death.
 
That’s the flaw in each Greek god. They only carried one or two powers and could do little. Discord is capable of altering reality and the “rules of the game” at will. He’s on par with the Titans who originally shaped the world like Gaia who created the world and the titans.
Background Pony #947B
@Background Pony  
Omnipotence = being unbeatable. You can’t beat an omnipotent since they’re ALL-POWERFUL. The fact that the Sisters of Fate got beaten means they’re not omnipotent. Further more, you can’t be beyond omnipotence. Seriously, stop the Kratos wank.
 
@Background Pony  
His physical strength is pretty good since he avoided getting crushed by Chronos. Still doesn’t protect him from reality warping which Discord has.
Background Pony #D63D
And let’s not forget that Kratos’ physical strength ALONE is on par with someone about a thousand times his size.
Background Pony #D63D
Kratos escaped hell. Multiple times. And he stopped the Fates themselves, which, since they control destiny, are effectively omnipotent. Kratos > omnipotence. Discord < Elements of Harmony.
Background Pony #93C6
@Master Fox  
Now that is some interestingly grim plot twist, even though I’d expect that more from Pinkie (since she is the overlord of the 4th wall and all of that). I don’t consider Kratos to be “superior” than Discord(yes, I am the “save a spartan” Background pony), though I’d say he would be a “tricky to control” puppet (after all, everyone is a puppet in his point of view).
 
Also, if both the Elements and the Blade can defeat Discord it is pressumable that they both can be hid, so you are not wrong about that.
 
On the GoW production issue I can’t be sure, the thing that makes them continue (at least IMO) is the story. But that also happens in AC and now Ubisoft plans to milk the cow until it gets dry, who says Santa Monica and Sony can’t make the same with GoW (I hope not) just for the sake of money? (off-topic theories strike again).
 
I’d expect a bit of battle before Kratos gets dropped “where he belongs”. Think about it, Discord gets overconfident after some of his tricks and Kratos uses the opportunity to strike back, seeing that he can have problems if he let him continue like that he kicks him into a GoW videogame that belongs to a bad player and “Problem, Kratos?”.
Master Fox

Ah the debate is still raging. Good show. Good show.
 
Anyway my 2 cents going back into the pot for these various background ponies who are arguing so viciously that Kratos is “superior.”
 
First we have the Blade of Olympus. I honestly don’t know how powerful it is myself, cause I’ve never played the GoW series. So I’ll take your word on it that it can kill a god. That being said, is the Blade of Olympus immune to being teleported to a different position in time and space? If no Discord could easily force Kratos into crossing the worlds and fighting other gods in other pantheons while he sits back and watches knowing full well that the sword is on the Moon. – Luna don’t touch it. It’s sharp.
 
As for the elements of harmony “killing” as far as the show has shown they’re not that kind of power. We have no proof they’re even capable of killing seeing as how the only villain killed in the show was nuked by the feelings of his own people and a crystal Heart. No the Elements of harmony are represented by Loyalty, kindness, laughter, generosity, honesty, and Friendship. Even IF Kratos gets the elements he has no way of using them.
 
Then there’s just Discord’s level of magics. It’s not that he can control or move a planet. He wouldn’t end the fight at all. He’d literally toss Kratos into video games making him obey the rules and be controlled by children and people who would get him “killed” only to respawn and suffer a fate worse then death.
 
SO in conclusion. The God of War Series and every game disk in the series is an individual prison for Kratos. He lives every loss and every victory every second of it with no control over himself. Suffering all the pain of the 3-4 games. Suffering every way to die and remembering the pain of his wife and child being killed or worse. Why? Because Discord forgot there was a death battle when he was turned to stone by Celestia. In the end? Discord wins because they will one day stop producing God of War Games.
Background Pony #93C6
@Background Pony  
If I were wanking of to GoW too much I’d firstly state that this is an unfair fight (for Discord). And then say while laughing that Kratos would have a new and fine decoration for his throne room.
 
But I didn’t, since I know that Discord is a considerable enemy. It is a pain in the ass to fight enemies that can teleport (there are some of these in-game, specially some bosses) and things get worse with the fact that he can do whatever he wants. For instance, Kratos could say bye to the Icarus wings at any moment with a snap, and finally know how Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy felt in Return of Harmony.
 
I’m just saying that (if Discord has some awesome abilities) Kratos and the Blade has some considerable ones too. For example, the Rhodes overkill I mentioned earlier. Sure it isn’t a big deal if you compare it with a Tactical Nuke or even the Death Star as pinnacles of destruction. But the Blade did this with ONE SINGLE swing, ONE. Sure it isn’t the master race of divine elder tools, but neither are the Elements of Harmony. To use the full potential of the first one you have to be a god, to use the second one the Mane 6 have to be together and with the artifacts.  
In the case of the Blade, though, Kratos already put all of his god power in it, so, problem solved. And even then Discord can hide the Blade just like he did with the Elements.
 
As for the weak thing about the whole GoW saga, I think you are underestimate it’s potential. Because if we go by the “He can do X with not effort shown, so he could do X^100” we use that criteria in both factions.But even then it’s all suppositions and “what ifs” and considering that Discord can appear in more FiM episodes and Sony “can” make new God of War videogames (it’s still unconfirmed if Kratos is dead or not) some of those suppositions are logical and others complete nosense, until the canon says otherwise. “What if Discord can only alter when it’s day and night by moving the planet and not the sun/moon?”,“What if Kratos can only unleash part of the potential of the Blade of Olympus and the magic he has because he isn’t his creator and/or a major god?”, “What if Discord DOES HAVE more physical strenght than Kratos?”,“What if in a GoW 4 the final boss is the Chaos itself and it shares some powers with Discord?” …
 
Also, just because Kratos has been only seen punching a building when he was in his giant form, that doesn’t mean his maximum destructive capacity is Skycraper level (forgive me if I’m wrong about this one, but I don’t understand the Level scale of ODB and I don’t seem to find it). Furthermore, with an artifact of Ascension, he doesn’t need the Sisters of Fate’s statues to slow time ,in fact, he can also use it to decay/regenerate several structures during the game (if might become handy,who knows?).
 
Another interesting detail that has been said before and can swift the course of the battle:  
“Very clever and manipulative, but gets complacent when he’s convinced that he holds the upper hand and can make stupid mistakes as a result” (ODB on Discord’s intelligence)  
Just like in Return of Harmony, if he thinks he can win, he will loose some of his magic advantage against the spartan and not realise until it is too late.
 
But even with Kratos feats and Discord’s “weakness”, those two are not enough for Kratos to WIN the battle, since the draconequui darwfs some, if not ALL, the supernatural abilities in the GoW series with something as simple as making a chocolate milk out of fucking nowhere, and because there are more aspects to take in count, like luck and others (a good example of that is what happened to Goliath, although it fits too in the overconfidence area).
 
Even if Kratos doesn’t win, there is an abismal difference between an interesting fight and a Blade vs Faglight vampire fight, which is the one I understand you imply that would happen if these two chaos-bringer characters met in a battlefield.
Background Pony #947B
@Background Pony  
Answer me this: how many reality warping gods of chaos can the Blade of Olympus seal back?
 
Answer: none. The Blade of Olympus wiped out most of the soldiers in the city except for one. Big whoop. It would’ve been better if the Blade of Olympus nuked the city (not that it would help Kratos in this match) for a more impressive show of power. If a star-level being couldn’t do anything to Discord, a “city-level” sword isn’t doing jack shit to him neither.
 
You see, here’s what you’re not getting: God of War is a weak series. It hasn’t shown fast speed or good destruction feats. The Blade of Olympus killing gods and banishing the titans isn’t impressive considering they’re all just WEAK. You’re wanking off to God of War too much.
 
And the Mane 6 never killed with the Elements of Harmony. Hell, I don’t think it can kill but since it managed to seal back the show’s personification of chaos when not even CELESTIA could do anything, then it’s very powerful.
 
As for gauging the amount of punishment Kratos suffered, just read this: http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/God+of+War
 
Unfortunately for Kratos, his deadlier abilities have debilitating limits: he can only slow down time when those statues are present and he can only control fate when he has the Loom at his disposal (neither of which are his standard equipment so they’re not useful here anyway).
Background Pony #93C6
@Background Pony  
The Blade of Olympus weak?  
Tell me, son. How many villains did the Mane 6 KILL with the Elements?…  
Now, the Blade of Olympus was able to wipe out an entire city with just a swimg (even though it was Zeus and not Kratos the one wielding it) and banish an army of 300-meter-tall guys to Tartarus at the end of the War against the Titans. Kratos killed 3 Titans, Athena (accidentally) and the Colossus of Rhodes. Now tell me that thing is weak.  
Also on the star/moon thing (and I’m going way to offtopic on this and I’m sorry) If the sun is smaller it’s habitable zone is nearer (and if it’s bigger, that zone would be farther), so the planet would be much closer than in “normal conditions” (and thus, the size decrease is compensate by the distance decrease and, voila! the Equestrian sun looks as big as ours, but it isn’t).  
When I was talking about magic duel/physical contests, I was referring to the fact that ,in a combat, they’ll both use whatever they have. Discord would rely more on magic for obvious reasons, while Kratos (even though he is strong and shit) would combine strenght and element-based magic.  
About the speed issue, one thing is calculate the speed of superheroes that more or less respects physics and other is calculate the speed of an chaotic hybrid deity that laughs to death with the only mention of that scientific area (why walk, when you can teleport?). The most plausible estimations that can be made and would be relevant for this battle are:  
1- How much force did Kratos withstand in his battle against Cronos (to avoid being squashed like a bug).  
2- How much EXACT damage (because everyone knows it is a shitton) would cause to ram a celestial body to the planet.  
Why the last one, specially? If it is too much, they both loose. Kratos dead, and Discord with nopony to troll.Thus, eventually he’d die, of boredom.So I don’t think that (IF he can make the sun/moon crash against the planet) he takes this risk unless it’s TOO NECESSARY.
Background Pony #947B
@Background Pony  
The reason why the Elements of Harmony imprisoned Discord was because they were the exact opposite of his chaotic nature. Not to mention they’re also the most powerful magical force in the FiMverse.
 
The Blade of Olympus is weaksauce compared to the Elements of Harmony. Even if Kratos has that thing in his arsenal, he is NOT killing Discord with it. Hell, Discord takes the Blade of Olympus and jams it up Kratos’ ass.
 
This isn’t a physical tournament. This is a Death Battle. And yes, magic, if used for offense, can shift the tide. Stop spouting off-topic bullshit because Discord still stomps Kratos harder than Soundwave did to Airachnid.
 
Also, for the Sun and the Moon thing… They may or may not be different. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re still celestial bodies and that Luna and Celestia could move them, and that Discord wrested control of said celestial bodies from them. And how can the Sun be smaller when you need it to be that distance in order to avoid COOKING THE PLANET? The Sun isn’t smaller so the only things plausible are it’s the same size as our Sun or bigger. I’m going for the former in that one.
 
As for the speed thing, that’s how Death Battles calculated Superman and Goku’s respective speeds in the Superman vs. Goku episode. That’s also how the Battledome that I visit calculates speed: through physics. So no harm in that.
Background Pony #93C6
Considering the Elements of Harmony a force comparable with a medium size star is like considering a lollipop a efficient sustitute of a battleaxe which it is, if you have a gas mask with lsd and get paid to burn Frenchmen in suits . The elements are very/the most powerful artifacts in Equestria, similar to the Blade of Olympus (in GoW) or even the Excalibur ,the Shruberry and the Holy Grail in the Arturic myth.  
None of those are able to do anything to objects that are THOSANDS of KILOMETERS wide, so, if we go that way, Discord wouldn’t have been imprisoned two times. Also, we can’t be sure if the equestrian sun and moon are like our sun and moon. What we know about them is pure headcannon, hell, maybe their moon is bigger than ours and their sun smaller. But that can only be (if it hasn’t already) confirmed by Lauren, a current writer, or a yellow personality core.  
Any way, why can Discord move the sun and the moon freely and with absolutely no respect for the day-night cycle? Magic. Not strength, magic.  
If we put them in an arm wrestling contest it’s obvious that Kratos win. In a magic duel, though, the tides turns.  
Another thing is, anylizing the speed of this show’s characters to end up saying that they move at the speed of DB sayians is like the guy who said that Fluttershy was made of black matter to explain how she was lifted by butterflies.
Master Fox

@VengefulInfinity  
I’m just laughing at the whole discord moves mach blablabla. He’s not moving at all. He’s quite literally traveling through time and space. He’s about as fast as a normal character. His ability to warp and travel is just part of his powers.
 
For all we know. He could freeze kratos to move at 1000 times slower than he moves in reality. Basically leaving Kratos to be a statue that slowly moves over time.
VengefulInfinity

@Master Fox  
Or destruction via his weapons. Discord is just above the ENTIRE God of War verse’s paygrade. Discord won’t just be beating Kratos, he’d solo the entire verse without any difficulty.
 
In order to beat Discord, you need:  
  1. The Elements of Harmony,  
  2. Higher level of destructive capacity than star-level,  
    or  
  3. Higher level reality warping than him.
     
    Of the choices above, the third one is the safest route to go. But in order for options two and three to even be effective, you need to be faster than him. And as stated in that link, Discord moves at mach 1250__, massively hypersonic. And to tell you how fast mach 1250__ is, it’s the same speed that Dragon Ball characters were moving at during the Frieza Saga, the middle of the second part of the manga.
     
    Kratos has not shown anywhere near the speed of even the lowest-tier of Dragon Ball characters and DB (the top tiers anyway) now has FTL characters because of the new Battle of Gods movie.
     
    So… To end this match:  
    fullDiscord snaps his fingers for massive lulz and rape. Or if Discord is just feeling sadistic, he drops the Sun or the Moon on Kratos.
     
    Nice Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference.
Master Fox

@Background Pony  
So true background pony. I am right.
 
And I still think the biggest point of this though is not that Kratos is able to kill other gods. That’s not much of a problem considering Discord’s real power.
 
Remember, Discord has removed powers from others with out even so much as a snap of his finger. He can’t stop the elements of harmony due to their nature being the literal opposite of what he is. Kratos on the other hand causes nothing but discord and chaos in his rein.
 
Discord is out to have fun like I said. When you think about all he’s done just for the sake of “fun”. Discord is at the level of someone playing sims and changing the rules of reality to see his sims squirm. Like removing doors and leaving sims in a room full of wooden chairs and a fireplace.
 
Discord if forced to end Kratos could with little effort snap his fingers. He’d snap his fingers and Kratos is sent to anywhere Discord wants, into a black hole, out of existance as we know it, into hadies. Heck he could just make Kratos a little bunny rabbit forced to guard a cave for all eternity till someone kills him with a holy hand grenade.
 
The only reason the fight doesn’t end in a snap is because Discord wouldn’t have fun. He’s not in danger against a demigod who’s greatest skills and powers are destruction with his fists.
Background Pony #947B
The gods in God of War all suck and Kratos is not that impressive. He is NOT standing up to Discord, a being that can move both the SUN and the MOON after being set free. Discord is a star-level being (able to destroy stars) while Kratos hasn’t even been shown destroying a planet let alone a city. If we scale Discord to Celestia, the same Celestia who survived being in the Sun during the first episode of the entire series, Discord’s durability is also very high; you need something capable of destroying a star the size of the Sun in order to even harm Discord.
 
Furthermore, the power of hope won’t be saving Kratos. It just hasn’t shown any impressive feats. We look for feats in matches like these, not conjectures and Discord has just shown the better ones. Kratos’ feats consist of physical ones and they are impressive. However, Discord’s feats are reality warping ones that cannot be blocked by physical prowess alone.
 
Discord is also faster than Kratos.  
Here’s a calculation of the speed of Friendship is Magic’s top tiers: http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19981  
Luna is the one who performed that feat. Considering Discord is undoubtedly more powerful than her and Celestia, Discord being able to move that fast is logical.
 
At the end of it all, Discord beats Kratos. Easily too. This match is not a fair match at all.
Background Pony #93C6
If we equip Kratos with all the items and magic used during the saga it would be a warrior that could kill almost (if not) anything that dares to oppose him with no effort given…
 
But then, there is Discord. The one who could turn Hercules’ Nemean Cestus into baking gloves with a snap just because “Why not?”. Technically speaking he is a Titan/Primordial god (in the Greek myth Chaos was the first existing thing) equaling him to Gaia.So,the only weapon that would be able to kill him is the Blade of Olympus (as it is capable of killing Titans and Olympians). The problem is, you can’t strike an enemy who can teleport/transform objects/etc.
 
That is Kratos main weakness in terms of weapondry, his magic is element-based (given/stolen by several gods and titans during the saga) excluding some artifacts like the ones in GoW: Ascension. But Discord’s “childish” behaviour can put him on risk (remember Hermes?). As we have seen in the show, the draconequui wouldn’t be a fighting-type guy.  
Furthermore, his known most painful moment is when he was turned into stone by the Elements, while Kratos was stabbed by a pointy pillar (from a fricking building), killed with the Blade of Olympus, mauled by Roc birds…(note that the painful moments of Kratos listed here happened when he was a mortal/fallen god). So, we can see which one of the two can empirically support most damage and pain.
 
Another point in favour for Kratos is his domain over the power of hope (which was the one that allowed him to defeat Ares and Zeus, since the Blade didn’t fully kill the latter). Which could be countered by “the touch”. Considering the spartan the “Element of Hope” the most probable counterpart would be an “Element of Fear” and that would cause him to have illusions like the ones on the final battles of GoW I and III, although he can recover from those hallucinations, and we already know what happened to Zeus after he started messing up with Kratos’ mind.
 
TL:DR edition: Even though Kratos can withstand getting turned into stone by a gorgon AND manage to break free to kick said serpentine lady’s tail,they are very matched (it doesn’t matter if you are a fierce warrior if your enemy is throwing at you explosive chocolate milks of glass from a secure distance). I’d bet for Kratos though.
 
That in terms of a real fight, but (as Master Fox said) in the most likely scenario, Discord’s goal would be to piss off Kratos (which is pretty easy, specially if you are between him and whatever he is seeking at the moment). As it is said: “The only winning move is not to play”.