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Still doesn't help that Twilight defaults entirely to appeasing Celestia without question or even saying "no" to anything Celestia asks of her. Twilight never tried to go another route to victory unless there was absolutely no other choice, and as been shown in so many instances of this happening: what Celestia suggested wasn't even a realistic option to begin with.


 
The Crystal Empire has returned and there's a chance that King Sombra is back with it. Should I take the Elements of Harmony to blast the dark King? No. Ignore him and focus on finding out where the Crystal Heart is to restore power to the Imperial City, it can only be done by you and not your friends.


 
Tirek is sneaking through the countryside stealing Magic. Should we lure him into a place where he could be contained and apprehended discreetly? No. Send in Discord despite none of the others actually trusting him. Discord inevitably betrays them and sides with Tirek and turns what was a subtle theft into a full-blown open rampage.


 
Tirek and Discord are closing in on Canterlot and will steal the Alicorn Magic and become unstoppable. Should we pull out the Elements of Harmony or evacuate Canterlot of its citizens? No. We will sacrifice all three Alicorn Princesses Magic to hide with Twilight because Tirek wouldn't know about her yet, despite the fact that Discord does and is working with him. Can I at least share this news with my friends? No. It will put them in danger, and that Tirek would use them against you. Tirek enters Canterlot and steals the Magic from the unevacuated civilians and guards, then enters the throne room and tosses the defenseless Princesses into Tartarus while Discord informs him of Twilight Sparkle and her friends then tricks them to use as bait to lure out the last Princess that ran away.


 
Queen Chrysalis and her Changelings still a potential threat to us since we do not know if they survived being thrown out years ago. Should we develop Anti-Changeling Protocols such as studying other sorts of Magic we don't know of yet, inquire with outsiders about possible Changeling incursions and how they repel them? No. We shall stay the course and do nothing about it. We found an alternate Timeline where Equestria fell to a Changeling Invasion and a resistance movement formed led by Zecora and they have a salve designed to reveal hidden Changelings. Should we ask that Zecora for the Salves' recipe or several bottles to reverse-engineer or ask our own Zecora if she knows what is in the Salve and mass-produce it? No. We will do nothing about that knowledge or act on it in any fashion.


 
We have a high-profile public event being held in the Capital where all three Princesses and the Imperial Princess are in-attendance. Should we post security for it? No. There is an unknown airship approaching Canterlot that is displaying their allegiance to someone called "The Storm King" and that he is a tyrant, should we organize our forces accordingly in-case this is part of an Invasion? No. The Princesses will take the front. The Royal Sisters and Imperial Princess are captured and Canterlot is under enemy occupation right now. Should we mobilize any of the surviving military stationed outside of Canterlot for a counterattack, seek out our allies among the Changelings and Dragons to provide air superiority against their fleet of Airships, or use guerilla warfare tactics to harass the Fleet to lure many of them away from Canterlot to retake the city or to lure out their commander to either capture or kill her? No. We shall go off in a vague direction to try and find these Hippogriffs and lave our own people for dead for 72-hours.


 
Season 8 shouldn't have been about some School of Friendship, it should have been about the rest of Equestria finally getting fed up and paissed off at how callous the Princesses have treated their own people in a crisis and of how little in the way of desire, drive or autonomy Twilight Sparkle has: behaving like a lost lamb rather than as a Princess of Equestria that Celestia envisioned her to be.


 
Than there is the sorry fate of Cozy Glow which would have served no other purpose than to paint the Princesses as nothing more than Hipocrites at best and racist at worst based on her permanent imprisonment for what is a crime that Discord was 100% responsible for. Why do I say that they would be painted as either Hipocrites or Racists? Well let us tally up all of the other ponies that did bad to Equestria:
 
Trixie, Unicorn: guilty of False Advertising and for possession of a Dark Artifqct that caused her to enslave Ponyville.
 
Punishment: Cleared of all charges.


 
Sunset Shimmer, Unicorn: guilty of theft, treason against a crown Princess, usage of Mind-Control against indigenous humanoid population for the purpose of invading The Crystal Empire.
 
Punishment: Self-Imposed Exile and Cleared of all charges.


 
Starlight Glimmer, Unicorn: guilty of coercion, attempted militancy, unlawful imprisonment of Royal Princess Twilight Sparkle for a period of 24-Hours, and Treason against a Crown Princess of Equestria. Later amended to include the creation of multiple alternate Timelines in an attempt to undo important historic events surrounding Royal Princess Twilight Sparkle.
 
Punishment: released into the custody of Princess Twilight Sparkle as her Apprentice and Cleared of latest charges.


 
Fizzlepop Berrytwist/Tempest Shadow, Unicorn: guilty of High treason against Equestria, orchestrating the invasions of both Equestria and Mount Aris, the unlawful imprisonment of Royal Princesses Celestia and Luna alongside Imperial Princess Cadence for a period of 72-Hours.
 
Punishment: Cleared of all charges.


 
Cozy Glow, Pegasus: guilty of the attempted destruction of Magic from Equestria, collusion with Lord Tirek, the attempted unlawful imprisonment of Royal Princess Twilight Sparkle.
 
Punishment: sentenced to Tartarus without trial or investigation into personal background.


 
The Racist angle is a very obvious one: "You are worthy of Redemption, only if you are a Unicorn", and the Hipocrite angle is seen as that the others managed to do more direct harm to both Equestria and its citizenry and got off with just a slap on the wrist, while a child that was far less successful got sentenced to Tartarus. And before you say anything: I do not include what happened with Grogar as part of what Cozy Glow did, that was all 100% Discords' fault. The argument could be made that when they discovered that Grogar was Discord, the three of them (correctly) assumed that they were being setup for failure, and that it was probably all being orchestrated by Princess Celestia as an elaborate form of public execution (untrue but reasonable belief).


 
All it would take would be one paranoid and resentful Pony to take notice of this and run a campaign to have Twilight removed from power because of what Celestia did, considering that unlike Celestia Twilight is relatively weaker and has no Powerbase or support in Canterlot where she decided to live at instead of doing the rational thing and moving the seat of power to Ponyville: where everything that she owns and has created is at.
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Still doesn't help that Twilight defaults entirely to appeasing Celestia without question or even saying "no" to anything Celestia asks of her. Twilight never tried to go another route to victory unless there was absolutely no other choice, and as been shown in so many instances of this happening: what Celestia suggested wasn't even a realistic option to begin with.

The Crystal Empire has returned and there's a chance that King Sombra is back with it. Should I take the Elements of Harmony to blast the dark King? No. Ignore him and focus on finding out where the Crystal Heart is to restore power to the Imperial City, it can only be done by you and not your friends.

Tirek is sneaking through the countryside stealing Magic. Should we lure him into a place where he could be contained and apprehended discreetly? No. Send in Discord despite none of the others actually trusting him. Discord inevitably betrays them and sides with Tirek and turns what was a subtle theft into a full-blown open rampage.

Tirek and Discord are closing in on Canterlot and will steal the Alicorn Magic and become unstoppable. Should we pull out the Elements of Harmony or evacuate Canterlot of its citizens? No. We will sacrifice all three Alicorn Princesses Magic to hide with Twilight because Tirek wouldn't know about her yet, despite the fact that Discord does and is working with him. Can I at least share this news with my friends? No. It will put them in danger, and that Tirek would use them against you. Tirek enters Canterlot and steals the Magic from the unevacuated civilians and guards, then enters the throne room and tosses the defenseless Princesses into Tartarus while Discord informs him of Twilight Sparkle and her friends then tricks them to use as bait to lure out the last Princess that ran away.

Queen Chrysalis and her Changelings still a potential threat to us since we do not know if they survived being thrown out years ago. Should we develop Anti-Changeling Protocols such as studying other sorts of Magic we don't know of yet, inquire with outsiders about possible Changeling incursions and how they repel them? No. We shall stay the course and do nothing about it. We found an alternate Timeline where Equestria fell to a Changeling Invasion and a resistance movement formed led by Zecora and they have a salve designed to reveal hidden Changelings. Should we ask that Zecora for the Salves' recipe or several bottles to reverse-engineer or ask our own Zecora if she knows what is in the Salve and mass-produce it? No. We will do nothing about that knowledge or act on it in any fashion.

We have a high-profile public event being held in the Capital where all three Princesses and the Imperial Princess are in-attendance. Should we post security for it? No. There is an unknown airship approaching Canterlot that is displaying their allegiance to someone called "The Storm King" and that he is a tyrant, should we organize our forces accordingly in-case this is part of an Invasion? No. The Princesses will take the front. The Royal Sisters and Imperial Princess are captured and Canterlot is under enemy occupation right now. Should we mobilize any of the surviving military stationed outside of Canterlot for a counterattack, seek out our allies among the Changelings and Dragons to provide air superiority against their fleet of Airships, or use guerilla warfare tactics to harass the Fleet to lure many of them away from Canterlot to retake the city or to lure out their commander to either capture or kill her? No. We shall go off in a vague direction to try and find these Hippogriffs and lave our own people for dead for 72-hours.

Season 8 shouldn't have been about some School of Friendship, it should have been about the rest of Equestria finally getting fed up and passed off at how callous the Princesses have treated their own people in a crisis and of how little in the way of desire, drive or autonomy Twilight Sparkle has: behaving like a lost lamb rather than as a Princess of Equestria that Celestia envisioned her to be.

Than there is the sorry fate of Cozy Glow which would have served no other purpose than to paint the Princesses as nothing more than Hipocrites at best and racist at worst based on her permanent imprisonment for what is a crime that Discord was 100% responsible for. Why do I say that they would be painted as either Hipocrites or Racists? Well let us tally up all of the other ponies that did bad to Equestria:
Trixie, Unicorn: guilty of False Advertising and for possession of a Dark Artifqct that caused her to enslave Ponyville.
Punishment: Cleared of all charges.

Sunset Shimmer, Unicorn: guilty of theft, treason against a crown Princess, usage of Mind-Control against indigenous humanoid population for the purpose of invading The Crystal Empire.
Punishment: Self-Imposed Exile and Cleared of all charges.

Starlight Glimmer, Unicorn: guilty of coercion, attempted militancy, unlawful imprisonment of Royal Princess Twilight Sparkle for a period of 24-Hours, and Treason against a Crown Princess of Equestria. Later amended to include the creation of multiple alternate Timelines in an attempt to undo important historic events surrounding Royal Princess Twilight Sparkle.
Punishment: released into the custody of Princess Twilight Sparkle as her Apprentice and Cleared of latest charges.

Fizzlepop Berrytwist/Tempest Shadow, Unicorn: guilty of High treason against Equestria, orchestrating the invasions of both Equestria and Mount Aris, the unlawful imprisonment of Royal Princesses Celestia and Luna alongside Imperial Princess Cadence for a period of 72-Hours.
Punishment: Cleared of all charges.

Cozy Glow, Pegasus: guilty of the attempted destruction of Magic from Equestria, collusion with Lord Tirek, the attempted unlawful imprisonment of Royal Princess Twilight Sparkle.
Punishment: sentenced to Tartarus without trial or investigation into personal background.

The Racist angle is a very obvious one: "You are worthy of Redemption, only if you are a Unicorn", and the Hipocrite angle is seen as that the others managed to do more direct harm to both Equestria and its citizenry and got off with just a slap on the wrist, while a child that was far less successful got sentenced to Tartarus. And before you say anything: I do not include what happened with Grogar as part of what Cozy Glow did, that was all 100% Discords' fault. The argument could be made that when they discovered that Grogar was Discord, the three of them (correctly) assumed that they were being setup for failure, and that it was probably all being orchestrated by Princess Celestia as an elaborate form of public execution (untrue but reasonable belief).

All it would take would be one paranoid and resentful Pony to take notice of this and run a campaign to have Twilight removed from power because of what Celestia did, considering that unlike Celestia Twilight is relatively weaker and has no PowerBbarse or support in Canterlot where she decided to live at instead of doing the rational thing and moving the seat of power to Ponyville: where everything that she owns and has created is at.
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