Agreed

@ZhaoZoharEX  

 
you’re in and you’re out  
you’re up and you’re down.

@ZhaoZoharEX  
The hell was I thinking with this comment? Must have been sleep deprived.

You’re hot and you’re cold, you’re yes and you’re no…

@Background Pony #48EA  
The uploader is basically saying that he finds powerful women to be sexier than slutty women.

Yet another who like evil and then cry how much his life kicks him because it is… Evil to him.

if they named her Supernova instead of daybreaker…  
daybreaker sounds like energy attack that makes sky dark…  
also i like her eyes.  
i never understood the whole molestia thing  
i mean… in the end it’s just celestia drawn to be sexy or something

@Background Pony #AADA  
Well man, that’s just like, your opinion man.

@Prince Areo  
wrong on so many levels

@Background Pony #5A80  
How: Because I enjoy her and got used to her.
 
Why: Daybreaker is too wild for me as a waifu.

@Prince Areo
 
how and why

Molestia is better than Daybreaker.

If you look at the MLP Super Vilains you can spot the 7 sins that pushed them toward evil.  
Nightmare Moon was Envy  
Discord was Lust (there is more then one type)  
Chrysalis is Pride  
Sombra was Greed  
Tirek was Gluttony  
The pony of shadows gripped on Stygian Wrath  
Only missing is Sloth
 
Before you argue about Starlight being absent, during their battle in Cloudsdale Twilight never pushed her magic to full like with Tirek, the exhaustion was physical and mental never magical. Proof and point she teleport just after showing fatigue.

i feel the same of this pic! NO for Molestia! Yes for Day Breaker!

@Princess Trixie vi Equestria  
My thoughts exactly, oh Great and Powerful One.

@toxicitzi
 
@Cryosite
 
@Eroraf86
 
Hello there, everyone!
 
As much as it is exciting to always debate with someone else something regarding our beloved pony show I’ll have to ask that you all may take further discussion to either a forum thread of your choices or go PM.
 
There’s only so much you can really discuss in a simple image comment section before going against rule 6# so I’ll kindly ask to cease for now.

@Cryosite
 
@toxicitzi
 
you two REALLY need to move this to a forum

Too much discussion, make it stahp!

@Cryosite  
I don’t know why you’re veering into these extremes, but, yeah.. here it is, your comment.  
Likewise, I wasn’t actually being serious when I said this thing to that BGP.  
@toxicitzi  

 
 
I’ll only say this one more time and if you still don’t get it, or try to over complicate things, making assumptions on my part instead of asking me to clarify what I mean, by asking me about what you don’t understand, just closing it with this hopeful clarification.
 
All I was saying is one of Celestia’s fears slipped while she was inside Starlight’s mind/dream/nothing(as you call it). This is my assumption based on a couple of things, Celestia having Luna’s dream powers and Luna being a horse that can jump into other horses’ dreams, whose powers transferred into Celestia for this episode.  
I am making assumptions, I never said I wasn’t, that’s why I even started the argument by saying ‘my interpretation is’, but at least I’m honest about it and the thing you seem to be missing is, I’m only restricting myself to the show and the show’s characters.
 
 
That’s it. That’s all I said. Shoot me if you want now, that’s what I think of that episode’s events. I didn’t kill anyone, I didn’t declare reality isn’t real, I just said plain and simple, Celestia fucked up and Daybreaker came from her, instead of from Starlight.
 
 

 
no, that’s your job.

@toxicitzi  

 
It isn’t an assumption that dreams aren’t real. I mean, if you’re going to argue solipsism, keep it to yourself because I know that argument already, and I’m not interested in entertaining it. The ontological argument has similarly been debunked thoroughly. Imagining something doesn’t make it real.
 
There has been explicit statement in-show that dreams aren’t real. Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sleep had Luna creating a special thing that tried to escape dreams into reality, and that was a big deal.
 
Since nowhere did they actively state Daybreaker is some kind of special tantabus-creation, then she is merely a dream. Just like Apple Bloom’s Twittermites or Sweetie Belle’s cackling cloud Rarity. As you accept, this is Starlight’s dream because they say it is. Luna’s only concern was for Starlight’s psyche.
 
This isn’t an assumption or interpretation, this is simply accepting the facts as presented.
 
To hypothesize that Daybreaker can be more than merely Starlight’s dream is where you break away from this position and indulge in personal speculation.
 
Could Celestia secretly harbor some inner evil and events grow that into her becoming Daybreaker? Sure. Write whatever fanfic on that topic you like. Do it well and it will be a creative thing. You will have fans of it. Perhaps even if you do a mediocre or poor job.
 
Could some dream-magic create a Daybreaker-tantabus that escapes the dream realm and becomes reality? Sure. Write your fanfic.
 
Could you explore how and why Starlight imagined such a thing? Lots of speculation to be had on that front, and you seem to be mistakenly thinking that your confusion and doubts on this area somehow represent a default position one way or another. Or that this somehow makes “Daybreaker is really real” part of that. Just because you personally cannot imagine Starlight’s mind coming up with it and fitting with the “Daybreaker is her dream” that the show presents it as.
 
The least amount of assumptions says that Daybreaker isn’t real. The potential for her to be or become real exists, but that requires fanfiction until the show decides to actually re-use the character and do so themselves.

I’m gonna be honest, a character in which every joke about her boils down to “lol sex” (emphasis on boils down) is not impressive. I also think daybreaker has a far more dynamic character design than molestia does. Molestia is celestia with pink hair. That doesn’t even relate to her character, what little there is of it. I think there’s far more creative potential with daybreaker because of the contrast that can be drawn between her and the real celestia, and they might have some very fun interactions with each other, without every joke about HER boiling down to “lol evil”.

@Cryosite  
Does she say anywhere in there that Daybreaker ain’t real? She’s saying it’s Starlight’s dream, which it is, that’s where they are, the problem here is you making more assumptions from there and presenting them as fact.
 
Based on this exchange, I don’t trust those assumptions, because this isn’t something Starlight’s mind should do, this is a little too haywire and veering into one’s inner demon territory, because I have little doubt Luna didn’t have similar thoughts.
 

 
My answer is simple, I don’t know, I can only offer my own interpretation as this. Luna’s job is dangerous, Celestia sucks at it, naturally, Daybreaker is Celestia’s sucking at Luna’s job taking form in that dream and her fuck up, that she needs Luna’s help to fix, or encouragement, which is that exchange you linked.  
To me that would explain that exchange above and Celestia’s reactions.
 
Besides, should Celestia ever go bad, what do you think the chances of reinventing this nightmare character are? I think they’re pretty slim, so it’s overall a bit silly to declare Daybreaker as fake.

@toxicitzi  
I mean, watch the episode? They outright say it’s Starlight’s dream. Starlight is dreaming about Nightmare Moon and her subconscious imagination created Daybreaker. You may think it doesn’t make sense, but that is what happened in the episode.
 

 
Source: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Transcripts/A_Royal_Problem
 
Watch the scene. There are plenty of visuals in the episode itself that confirm that it is Starlight’s dream.

@Background Pony #573B  
I know but the image is just an opinion, what did you expect?
 
 
Op likes Daybreaker and hates Molestia.  

 
Here you go. Some thoughts too, Daybreaker is alright and I don’t care much for the latter either way.
 
Now unsubscribe, because things are about to go downhill.

@toxicitzi
 
Just when we thought the conversation was going to finally be wrapped up.