@Meh brony
Do you know that the most powerful being in the Marvel universe is Squirrel Girl? The one who will win is the one who the author of the script says will win. That’s why there are versions of Starscream with power levels that vary from comic relief sidekick to god. Using the most over the top ridiculous one to “guarantee” a win is the opposite of “fair.” And in any case I could write a script where he loses to her anyway. I don’t think Rainbow Dash could beat the most powerful form of Starscream, I know she could. I also know she could lose to the weakest version if someone else wrote it. Or if I wrote it in a different mood. That’s why it’s important to be consistent. Saying “this ridiculous and impossible set of combat statistics beats that set of more realistically grounded stats” doesn’t mean anything without ground rules of what can and can’t happen. Maybe in OPStarscream’s universe Rainbow Dash has the wingpower of a whole quasar. Or more. Maybe she’s the Saitama of wingpower, completely without limit, but she just hasn’t seen the need to go beyond what she’s shown yet.
@Ferrotter
That whole other universe equivalence thing is an enormous fallacy that I am sick and tired of seeing in vs debates, in a vs debates for the sake of fairness and simplicity it’s usually assumed that both universe equivalents are the same unless stated otherwise by word of god and besides do you really think rainbow dash can beat a version of starscream who can rip apart spacetime with his barehands and keep up with or even surpass other transformers who can cross light years within a few days? The problem with that kind of logic is that it can lead to ridiculous statements such as saying that a fight between kirby and pinkie pie would be inconclusive when everybody knows that feat wise kirby utterly stomps pinkie pie even with her ability to break the fourth wall which is very limited compared to the likes of bugs bunny.
@Meh brony
Sometimes those equivalencies fail when crossing universes. A supernova is indeed big. So big though that confining it to something the size of Starscream would result in a black hole. When they collapse they form something about 15km across; should they be squeezed any smaller there is literally nothing in the universe that can oppose their continued collapse to a singularity that is at most 1 Planck Length across. (There’s a hypothesis that maybe quark degenerate matter could arrest the collapse again just slightly smaller than neutron degeneracy, but the margin is very small, and certainly it doesn’t go all the way down to anything remotely the size of a fighter jet.) So arguably maybe he has the energy flux of a supernova through the area of his weapons’ discharge areas, but the total energy would have to be far less, or Starscream would have to be more than 15km in diameter. Or physics is just different in his universe, which means how it translates to Rainbow Dash’s universe is anypony’s guess.
Honestly it really does depend on which starscream you use G1 animated series (the version they used) and bayformers starscream are fodder that even mere humans have defeated and would be demolished by rainbow dash however you also have versions of starscream who would either stalemate her (2007 animated series) or outright obliterate her. (such as super starscream who’s energy output was comparable to a supernova which is essentially an exploding star.)
(Rainbow)
Do you know that the most powerful being in the Marvel universe is Squirrel Girl? The one who will win is the one who the author of the script says will win. That’s why there are versions of Starscream with power levels that vary from comic relief sidekick to god. Using the most over the top ridiculous one to “guarantee” a win is the opposite of “fair.” And in any case I could write a script where he loses to her anyway. I don’t think Rainbow Dash could beat the most powerful form of Starscream, I know she could. I also know she could lose to the weakest version if someone else wrote it. Or if I wrote it in a different mood. That’s why it’s important to be consistent. Saying “this ridiculous and impossible set of combat statistics beats that set of more realistically grounded stats” doesn’t mean anything without ground rules of what can and can’t happen. Maybe in OPStarscream’s universe Rainbow Dash has the wingpower of a whole quasar. Or more. Maybe she’s the Saitama of wingpower, completely without limit, but she just hasn’t seen the need to go beyond what she’s shown yet.
That whole other universe equivalence thing is an enormous fallacy that I am sick and tired of seeing in vs debates, in a vs debates for the sake of fairness and simplicity it’s usually assumed that both universe equivalents are the same unless stated otherwise by word of god and besides do you really think rainbow dash can beat a version of starscream who can rip apart spacetime with his barehands and keep up with or even surpass other transformers who can cross light years within a few days? The problem with that kind of logic is that it can lead to ridiculous statements such as saying that a fight between kirby and pinkie pie would be inconclusive when everybody knows that feat wise kirby utterly stomps pinkie pie even with her ability to break the fourth wall which is very limited compared to the likes of bugs bunny.
Sometimes those equivalencies fail when crossing universes. A supernova is indeed big. So big though that confining it to something the size of Starscream would result in a black hole. When they collapse they form something about 15km across; should they be squeezed any smaller there is literally nothing in the universe that can oppose their continued collapse to a singularity that is at most 1 Planck Length across. (There’s a hypothesis that maybe quark degenerate matter could arrest the collapse again just slightly smaller than neutron degeneracy, but the margin is very small, and certainly it doesn’t go all the way down to anything remotely the size of a fighter jet.) So arguably maybe he has the energy flux of a supernova through the area of his weapons’ discharge areas, but the total energy would have to be far less, or Starscream would have to be more than 15km in diameter. Or physics is just different in his universe, which means how it translates to Rainbow Dash’s universe is anypony’s guess.