@saturnstar14  
to be honest, in this one there are very amateurish mistake, so my theory is that he traces different pieces from different pictures.  
Look at the legs. The right one (our left) is much shorter than the other one and it seems to touch the ground behind the other leg, which should not do.
 
now, this is personal taste, but can you draw a different expression, Toxic? It’s like all your anthros have the same exact eyes. The eyes are probably the most important part, improve on them.

@The Smiling Pony  
Like Background Pony 770 said, there’s a HUGE difference between his anthros and his ponies a.i. the anthros look WAY too perfect. Even from his first one already. I would like to link my first human pictures and compare them to what they are now and show the improvement that has happened.  
With Toxic, this improvement never happened, his anthros were very good from day 1 and that’s VERY suspicious. He could atleast mention he referenced from a certain scene or from a certain pose but he isn’t. He’s just saying that he did all from scratch or got some help with some stuff but always he’s blabbering on an on about the background. And you know why? Because the background is probably the only thing he put alot of work into.

@Beau Skunky  
Thanks for not reading the rest of the things I said.

@The Smiling Pony  
sadly, that is not something that can be controlled. But i think people would be less bloodthirsty if toxic had handled this better.  
And more generally it’s a consequence of a big scandal. People will start seeing drama everywhere.

@Background Pony #770B  
Not arguing against that last bit, which I think I’ve stated myself here and elsewhere.
 
But the whole tracing/referencing/copying thing, I’ve seen the recent… fervor? that “catching” Toxic created bleeding out onto other artists’ works that are almost certainly not traced/copied, just because they used a pose that looks sort of like something some furry artist made 7 years ago, or because the completely spherical boobs from one image align with the completely spherical boobs on another image (while everything else is different).
 
It’s just getting annoying. People are out sniping others for the pleasure of “I found you out being bad!” regardless of how things really are.
 
Bleh.

@The Smiling Pony  
i think in the case of toxic mario is that he has already been caught tracing twice and has not even attempted to disprove this claims (actually on the yoko pic, his “counter proof” only ended up worsening his position, because it proved even more he traced). Doesn’t help that his anthros are generally of much better quality than his ponies.  
That and his general attitude. People want answers and he responds with insults.

@Background Pony #770B  
I’m aware of the difference between copying and tracing. My question I guess is how to tell that this is actually tracing and not just copying something side by side. If you look at Rockwell, that’s copying/referencing, but it’s very precise.

@The Smiling Pony  
There’s a big difference there. First of all, it’s a copy, which is different from tracing.  
Now, i don’t know about that specific artist, but it’s not unheard of the use of live reference for paintings and drawings.  
Copying means drawing something with a reference nearby, but the drawing is still all yours.  
Tracing means literally put a sheet on it and tracing the lines.  
Tho tracing isn’t always a demonic act. I’ve used it to learn something (but it’s not as effective as copying).  
Also there’s the rotoscope technique for animated movie. That is not the same. First of all, the actors that are gonna be traced are paid to do that, second, it’s not like they are hiding what they are doing. It’s just a technique. Third, like flash and cgi, it’s not as easy as it sounds. To make a rotoscoped image look good one has to know a lot about the principles of animations. Just mindlessly tracing every frame is gonna lead to a creepy animation straight to the uncanny valley.
 
As for toxic, refer to the topic in the forum. The last post by an admin sums up the situation quite nicely.

@Toxic-Mario  
People may be obsessively Crazy over this but I guess the apple does not fall too far the tree know does it
 
the background is more detail the main subject of the picture, but why even bother saying anything pointless to even talk to you

@The Smiling Pony  

 
Hehe yup. There are some pretty obsessively crazies out there. D:

@The Smiling Pony  

 
This.
 
In regards to tracing being so evil, and sacreligious, while I don’t justify misusing it, or using it to steal from other artists, (some actually traced my works before, claiming they made ‘em) I actually used to trace pics as a kid, (like from Nintendo manuals, comics, and such.) it actually helped me learn how to draw things on my own. I don’t do it anymore though, but I have used references before to help me. (Like to see what color a characters’ eyes are, how many hair curls Sweetie Belle has, or something.)
 
Some older animated features (before CGI became cheaper, and all the rage) actually used live action reference, or traced real people/objects (Google “rotoscoping”) to create more realistic characters, or effects. So actually using some reference isn’t always bad.
 
@saturnstar14  

 
This comes off as more like a personal grudge, rather then the morality of the situation.

@The Smiling Pony  
For one, this Norman Rockwell obviously referenced quite good and I’m seeing enough difference between the stock picture and the painting. Also, in this digital age we have now it’s way easier to trace stuff.
 
I’d forgive Toxic and let him be if he would admit for once that he heavily referenced something but he literally never does that. The only thing he had ever mentioned was the squid Derpy where he said that the pose he used was very common.  
In this picture he only says he got help with the arms. Yeah, how about the legs and the pose in general? I have several human pokemon designs on my DA profile where I used references for the poses and they’re never 100 percent exactly like the reference and they all have serious flaws (for one the hands are always atrocious, I just can’t get them right).
 
Like I said, I’m just scapegoating him because he’s an asshole in everything he does. And I’m still discussing the image.

@saturnstar14  
@Background Pony #FD57  
So, like, I gotta ask; what do you think of highly respected and renown artist Norman Rockwell?
 
 

 
 
Where and how do you split “this is referencing something”, “this is copying something”, and “this is tracing something”?
 
Don’t take this the wrong way; if he’s strongly referencing something (like, the entire pose, no simpler concepts like how an arm line looks at a certain bend and angle) he should be stating it, and he certainly shouldn’t be reacting like a troll to questions and accusations. But this obsession some people have over this is getting kinda fairly creepy and petty.

@Background Pony #FD57  
Toxic is the scapegoat in this case because he is literally everything an artist shouldn’t be. He doesn’t care anything about the critiques people give him, when confronted by literal trace evidence he just shrugs it off and gives a “come to my stream” lame excuse, and acts like a total ass to any of his fans, even the good ones.  
For example, he acted like a total ass to one of his friends and uses another one for his own gain.

@Background Pony #0EAC  
Uh no. In fact they rarely do. They may say they liked a style another artist does but they don’t do that as much as you think. Also why don’t any of the bigger artists in the fandom seem to get a pass here then? Just seems like a scapegoat at this point.

@The Smiling Pony  
Alright, wrong choice of words, he TRACED multiple poses. How about that?

@Background Pony #0EAC  
He could’ve still traced from multiple poses. It’s called frankendolling.
 
And we are discussing the image, I’m saying it’s looking too good to be made from scratch.

Discuss the image, or leave. Comments are not the place for baseless accusations.

@saturnstar14  

 
@The Smiling Pony  

 
This.

@saturnstar14  

 
so yer saying it isn’t a trace

@saturnstar14  

This is kinda what 90% of artists do, jfyi.

@Beau Skunky  
It’s pretty hard to find the exact pose because it’s pretty clear he referenced multiple poses. I’ve found several alike poses but none that exactly match it.
 
Plus, other copycat artists don’t sell their obvious traced stuff on conventions and online and say they made it all from scratch.

@Beau Skunky  

 
agreed